gc1765 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Overall, only 20 per cent of those polled wanted Dion, who was elected to lead the Liberals just six months ago, to become prime minister. That's funny, because in the last poll I saw, more people wanted Dion PM than Harper. I guess as bad as Dion is, Harper is worse. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 He definitely cannot under the new "fixed election date" law. It was doubtful that he could before, under the King/Byng affair precedent. The Liberals + the Bloc can create an election any time they want. Why don't they?King/Byng doesn't real come into play.Pre-fixed elections, it certainly would have prevented Harper from "calling" an election. My understanding is that the GG would first turn to Dion to form a government.The Liberals and the Bloc probably won't force an election.Unless they both enjoy a death wish, no. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Why force an election when the opposition can sit back and watch Steve implode. The polls hardly show an implosion. And get his name right. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Posted June 15, 2007 Unless they both enjoy a death wish, no. If the an election were held today, the Tories would likely go down to defeat. Quote
gc1765 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 And get his name right. I'm sure you speak out when other people call Stephane Dion Stephanie or Celine.... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
jdobbin Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Posted June 15, 2007 The polls hardly show an implosion. And get his name right. Bush calls him Steve. Is Bush wrong? Even war widows are angry with Harper and say he has broken promises. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...0070614.wvets14 Mr. Harper had promised her two years ago in writing when he was opposition leader that a Conservative government would "immediately" extend the program. But so far, the government has not made good on it. The VIP provides services such as home maintenance, housekeeping and personal care to widows of veterans whose spouses died after 1981, the year the program was introduced, as long as they had received it while their spouses were still alive.Mrs. Carter, a war bride who lives in St. Peters, N.S., qualifies for the program; her husband, Murdoch, who was a veteran, died in November, 2000. The program costs the government $270-million a year and provides benefits to 97,000 people. But Mrs. Carter has been fighting for an extension to include 240,000 more widows. Yesterday, she confronted the Prime Minister as he entered the chamber for Question Period. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 The polls hardly show an implosion. And get his name right. I beg your pardon, but just who the hell are you to bitch about any name we choose to call OUR Prime Minister? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Unless they both enjoy a death wish, no. If the an election were held today, the Tories would likely go down to defeat. So why don't the other three parties move a non-confidence motion? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Posted June 15, 2007 So why don't the other three parties move a non-confidence motion? Because Harper keeps the BQ happy on money bills by giving Quebec $4 billion. Quote
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 The polls hardly show an implosion. And get his name right. I beg your pardon, but just who the hell are you to bitch about any name we choose to call OUR Prime Minister? Here's my answer: 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; ( freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; © freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Bush calls him Steve. Exactly. If it's good enough for George.... it's good enough for me. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Bush calls him Steve.Exactly. If it's good enough for George.... it's good enough for me.Oh, a new Bush fan? LOL Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Here's my answer:2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; ( freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; © freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association. And the freedom to call him Steve. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
jdobbin Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Posted June 15, 2007 Here's my answer:2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; ( freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; © freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association. That's only for Canadians. Anyone else is subject to the a security certificate and a lifetime of confinement. Quote
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Oh, a new Bush fan? I figured it might be lonely in the twenties.... Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 So why don't the other three parties move a non-confidence motion? Because Harper keeps the BQ happy on money bills by giving Quebec $4 billion. The separatists are propping up the lame duck Conservatives. All federalist opposition parties voted against the budget which promised 4.8 billion dollars to Quebec at the expense of other provinces. Harper's days as PM are thankfully coming to a close. Quote
jdobbin Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Posted June 15, 2007 CTV Strategic Counsel poll. The poll also found little difference in Canadians' political support in the past month. In total, 31 per cent of Canadians would vote Liberal, and 34 per cent would vote Conservative -- matching numbers from one month ago.The New Democratic Party's support dropped from 16 points in May to 13, but the change is within the poll's margin of error. The Bloc is up one point to 11 per cent, matching the green Party which is up two points from a month ago. In total, 1,000 Canadians were sampled between June 8 and 11. The poll has a margin of error of 3.1 per cent. No change from the last poll by the firm. The poll also found that the voters believe that treaty negotiations have been stalled. I think that a lot of people will look to see if those talks are actually kick started. Quote
ScottSA Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign. If the separatist Bloc had failed to prop up the Harper Conservatives on the budget vote, we'd be able to test your hypothesis. Oh well, that's the trouble with alternate reality...it didn't happen. Quote
Fortunata Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Bush calls him Steve. Exactly. If it's good enough for George.... it's good enough for me. Steve fits. Quote
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Bush calls him Steve. Exactly. If it's good enough for George.... it's good enough for me. Steve fits. Here's a piece of related trivia: Stephen Harper ran for the House of Commons as a Reform Party candidate in the 1988 federal election, appearing on the ballot as Steve Harper in Calgary West. He lost by a wide margin to the Progressive Conservative candidate. After that, he always ran as Stephen Harper. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Here's a piece of related trivia:Stephen Harper ran for the House of Commons as a Reform Party candidate in the 1988 federal election, appearing on the ballot as Steve Harper in Calgary West. He lost by a wide margin to the Progressive Conservative candidate. After that, he always ran as Stephen Harper. That's an interesting tidbit. Thanks Normie. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Here's a piece of related trivia:Stephen Harper ran for the House of Commons as a Reform Party candidate in the 1988 federal election, appearing on the ballot as Steve Harper in Calgary West. He lost by a wide margin to the Progressive Conservative candidate. After that, he always ran as Stephen Harper. That's an interesting tidbit. Thanks Normie. See, not everything I say about the man is negative. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Here's a piece of related trivia:Stephen Harper ran for the House of Commons as a Reform Party candidate in the 1988 federal election, appearing on the ballot as Steve Harper in Calgary West. He lost by a wide margin to the Progressive Conservative candidate. After that, he always ran as Stephen Harper. That's an interesting tidbit. Thanks Normie. See, not everything I say about the man is negative. No, I'd call that post neutral. You're making progress normie! Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Here's my answer:2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; ( freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; © freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association. Uh huh. And just when did you become Canadian? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 You're making progress normie! I am, and one day you too will make progress! Quote
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