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Please show me where I have?

You guys are getting predictable...

Yes, you have been nothing but fair and reasonable in your critique of the CPC. :rolleyes:

Couldn't stomache reading your diatribes once. No way I'd subject myself to that a second time.

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

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Please show me where I have?

You guys are getting predictable...

Yes, you have been nothing but fair and reasonable in your critique of the CPC.

Couldn't stomache reading your diatribes once. No way I'd subject myself to that a second time.

Oh go ahead. Prove him wrong...if you can.

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They have attacked his appearance (both weight and choice of fashion). Then they attack him for hiring someone to help improve his appearance.

Tories miss an important aspect of the PM's taxpayer-paid hair primper. Harper's handlers had carefully nurtured the "hockey dad" image but the moment suburbia learned this macho profile was supplemented with a wardrobe steward/coif teaser, well, let's just say it's made the Tim Horton crowd a bit queasy.

When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one.

...... Lord Lytton

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Tories miss an important aspect of the PM's taxpayer-paid hair primper. Harper's handlers had carefully nurtured the "hockey dad" image but the moment suburbia learned this macho profile was supplemented with a wardrobe steward/coif teaser, well, let's just say it's made the Tim Horton crowd a bit queasy.

Evidence? Proof? Support?

The Tim Horton crowd is going to turn to Stephane Dion as a result? :lol:

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

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Tories miss an important aspect of the PM's taxpayer-paid hair primper. Harper's handlers had carefully nurtured the "hockey dad" image but the moment suburbia learned this macho profile was supplemented with a wardrobe steward/coif teaser, well, let's just say it's made the Tim Horton crowd a bit queasy.

Naah, the Tim Horton crowd is easily fooled. CPC need only point out that Dion drinks French wine and eats cheese not made by Kraft or Velveeta.

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Ah, Michael, nothing matters to the left except smearing Harper. Layton gets a pass. May gets a pass. Dion gets a pass. But Harper is still scary scary!

They get passes? Hardly.

People here just question your unending love for Harper though.

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They have attacked his appearance (both weight and choice of fashion). Then they attack him for hiring someone to help improve his appearance.

Tories miss an important aspect of the PM's taxpayer-paid hair primper. Harper's handlers had carefully nurtured the "hockey dad" image but the moment suburbia learned this macho profile was supplemented with a wardrobe steward/coif teaser, well, let's just say it's made the Tim Horton crowd a bit queasy.

Who is the Tim Horton crowd - enquiring minds would like to know.

Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province

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Please show me where I have?

You guys are getting predictable...

Yes, you have been nothing but fair and reasonable in your critique of the CPC.

Couldn't stomache reading your diatribes once. No way I'd subject myself to that a second time.

Oh go ahead. Prove him wrong...if you can.

he can't....

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Posted

Please show me where I have?

You guys are getting predictable...

Yes, you have been nothing but fair and reasonable in your critique of the CPC.

Couldn't stomache reading your diatribes once. No way I'd subject myself to that a second time.

Oh go ahead. Prove him wrong...if you can.

he can't....

Correct.

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Who is the Tim Horton crowd - enquiring minds would like to know.

People who aren't even worthy of Normie's contempt.

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

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Who is the Tim Horton crowd - enquiring minds would like to know.

People who aren't even worthy of Normie's contempt.

Sheez, and here I thought Norma and I might go for a Timmies one day :D

Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province

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Sheez, and here I thought Norma and I might go for a Timmies one day :D

Something tells me Norma has issues lowering himself for Starbuck's.

Timmies? Puh lease.

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

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Great debate guys, I can't get over all of the intelligent statements here.

First things first, I'm not a CPC member, I'm infact a New Democrat so don't try to smear me as a left wing or right wing ideologue, I think all politician's in general are assholes.

QUOTE(sharkman @ May 7 2007, 12:33 PM)

But Harper is still scary scary!

Not to social conservatives.

Please, if this was the case you'd think we wouldn't have such a lenient criminal justice system, have the most lenient abortion rules in the world, and to boot be one of the few countries to have legalized gay marriages. Don't get started on how the so-con's have taken over because of marijuana, most social conservatives are probably unhappy with Harper because he isn't conservative enough. Hell I think Stockwell Day who was one of the most socially conservative members of the party supported marijuana decriminalization.

Is Harper a hypocrite for changing his policies, no he isn't. The reason why is because governing is different than being in opposition and playing to your base. Harper will change his priorities because he has to govern for the entire country, not just his base. The same can be said with any government, if Harper is that terrible of a leader one would have thought we would have an election by now, we haven't. As well I think people in the Liberal league shouldn't cry hypocrisy considering their blind partisan hackery when it comes to the Liberal Red Book policies. Jean Chretien had to do the same thing, when your dealing with different circumstances your priorities change, its a simple fact of life, and Canadian's obviously didn't mind because they gave him three straight majorities.

Tories miss an important aspect of the PM's taxpayer-paid hair primper. Harper's handlers had carefully nurtured the "hockey dad" image but the moment suburbia learned this macho profile was supplemented with a wardrobe steward/coif teaser, well, let's just say it's made the Tim Horton crowd a bit queasy.

I highly doubt they care much. Once again this is an example of someone who believes they are better than a fellow Canadian because they drink Starbucks coffee instead of Tim Hortons.

Naah, the Tim Horton crowd is easily fooled. CPC need only point out that Dion drinks French wine and eats cheese not made by Kraft or Velveeta.

When should we ban Tim Horton's?

Ah, Michael, nothing matters to the left except smearing Harper. Layton gets a pass. May gets a pass. Dion gets a pass. But Harper is still scary scary!

Not really, people have made references to Jack Layton being a member of the Taliban because of his opposition to the war. How many times have members on the right come on and said that anyone who doesn't agree with their position's is a traitor.

Either way I'm glad I'm not a member of either of the main parties. It seems to me that its more about partisan hackery than actual debate.

"Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist

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Either way I'm glad I'm not a member of either of the main parties. It seems to me that its more about partisan hackery than actual debate.

You are right and that is fair.

There are a number of members of the hateocracy here on this board. I've tried debating them. No use. You can look at a number of posts made here today that are nothing but attack, attack, attack.

Ignoring them is a much better way of marginalizing them.

Yes I am a CPC supporter.

Yes, I have posted relevant criticisms of their policies and tactics here on this board.

But that simply gives fuel to the hateocracy.

I really do believe the Conservatives are drifting right now because Harper only built them to really last a year in Government.

They need to spend this summer getting refocused and energized. Come up with some sort of plan to govern on for the rest of their term or a platform for the next election.

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

Posted
You are right and that is fair.

There are a number of members of the hateocracy here on this board. I've tried debating them. No use. You can look at a number of posts made here today that are nothing but attack, attack, attack.

Ignoring them is a much better way of marginalizing them.

Yes I am a CPC supporter.

Yes, I have posted relevant criticisms of their policies and tactics here on this board.

But that simply gives fuel to the hateocracy.

I really do believe the Conservatives are drifting right now because Harper only built them to really last a year in Government.

They need to spend this summer getting refocused and energized. Come up with some sort of plan to govern on for the rest of their term or a platform for the next election.

OMG :rolleyes:

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

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The hateocracy is made up of plenty of people, left and right. To be frank it's getting tiring, I'm reading over BS made by both BMax and Norman Chateau. Either way, people for once I'd like to see a debate where we don't debate like were trying to advance an agenda of a certain political party, and instead come up with our own opinion's.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't be supportive of certain parties, I'm just saying cut down on the partisan rhetoric.

Norman Chateau, I've seen much more intelligent PM's from you with regards to the issues, I'd suggest being abit more rational when making your arguments. The same goes with everyone else. The last 25 posts dealt more with Tim Horton's than any actual political issues.

"Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist

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Either way, people for once I'd like to see a debate where we don't debate like were trying to advance an agenda of a certain political party, and instead come up with our own opinion's.

This was an attempt to start debate.

I really do believe the Conservatives are drifting right now because Harper only built them to really last a year in Government.

They need to spend this summer getting refocused and energized. Come up with some sort of plan to govern on for the rest of their term or a platform for the next election.

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

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Is there anything poor, poor Stephane Dion can do to turn Liberal fortunes around?
Take lessons in "Hanglis" or "English".
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

Posted

Please show me where I have? You guys are getting predictable...

Yes, you have been nothing but fair and reasonable in your critique of the CPC. :rolleyes:

Couldn't stomache reading your diatribes once. No way I'd subject myself to that a second time.

This whole discussion is getting predictable and boring. Sniping and little else.
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

Posted
Great debate guys, I can't get over all of the intelligent statements here.

Very intelligent and eloquent. I agree.

First things first, I'm not a CPC member, I'm infact a New Democrat so don't try to smear me as a left wing or right wing ideologue, I think all politician's in general are assholes.
I'm also a New Democrat, in my country. We also have that term.
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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They have attacked his appearance (both weight and choice of fashion). Then they attack him for hiring someone to help improve his appearance.

Tories miss an important aspect of the PM's taxpayer-paid hair primper. Harper's handlers had carefully nurtured the "hockey dad" image but the moment suburbia learned this macho profile was supplemented with a wardrobe steward/coif teaser, well, let's just say it's made the Tim Horton crowd a bit queasy.

Who is the Tim Horton crowd - enquiring minds would like to know.

The Tim Horton crowd occupies the electoral real estate between bed rock conservative rural constituencies and the major urban areas still so elusive to Tories.

When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one.

...... Lord Lytton

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So people on the left don't drink Tim Hortons?

Man, I must have chosen the wrong party because I drank quite a few extra large triple triple's for the past few weeks.

"Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist

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Please show me where I have? You guys are getting predictable...

Yes, you have been nothing but fair and reasonable in your critique of the CPC. :rolleyes:

Couldn't stomache reading your diatribes once. No way I'd subject myself to that a second time.

This whole discussion is getting predictable and boring. Sniping and little else.

I was accused of something, it would be nice if the accuser could back up his assertions. Unfortunately, like most of his other accusations, he is unable to. I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology.

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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So people on the left don't drink Tim Hortons?

They do. They just turn up their noses at people who actually admit to being Tim Horton's customers.

No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice

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So people on the left don't drink Tim Hortons?

They do. They just turn up their noses at people who actually admit to being Tim Horton's customers.

OK, that's funny. EVERYONE I know goes to Tim Horton's. I have never heard of it being the right's territory exclusively or any political affiliation or association. What do you smoke to make up stuff like that?

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