Ricki Bobbi Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 I don't know that the Tories can depend on Jack Layton to bail them out. As Layton's party continues to fall for cooperation with Harper, he might decide opposition is better. That's an interesting take on things. The NDP haven't accomplished anything. So they should keep on doing nothing? Maybe if they work with the Conservatives they can squeeze out the Liberals. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
jbg Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 The only thing that's pisses off people like myself, is the so called environmental urgency that the other parties and the media claim is required. I haven't seen any "Urgent" programs presented any of these parties. We all know how "urgent" the Liberals are in doing something environmental, only while in opposition is it "urgent" for them. *snip* I think that will also apply to most pseudo greenies,"hey, I recycle.....I'm doing my part, isn't that enough?" My view is that environment was once a hot button issue, when smog was an everyday problem, but no longer is. "Global warming" is an esoteric and debatable concern. Frankly, that issue concerns the media and pundits more than real voters. I can't see real voters believing that something Harper can do in Canada, a small country, could change weather globally. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Posted January 8, 2007 My view is that environment was once a hot button issue, when smog was an everyday problem, but no longer is. "Global warming" is an esoteric and debatable concern. Frankly, that issue concerns the media and pundits more than real voters. I can't see real voters believing that something Harper can do in Canada, a small country, could change weather globally. Part of the reason Harper hasn't been able to make gains is because the polls say that voters are concerned with the environment. The Clean Air Act just wasn't getting support. I don't think they can sell the same plan all over again nor offer something less. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 Part of the reason Harper hasn't been able to make gains is because the polls say that voters are concerned with the environment.The Clean Air Act just wasn't getting support. I don't think they can sell the same plan all over again nor offer something less. So the Conservatives cannot do anything on the environment? They are currently, basically, tied with the Liberals. Do you mean to say that not one voter who currenlty isn't supporting them will change their mind and none of those voters would even consider voting Conservative? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 Part of the reason Harper hasn't been able to make gains is because the polls say that voters are concerned with the environment.The Clean Air Act just wasn't getting support. I don't think they can sell the same plan all over again nor offer something less. So the Conservatives cannot do anything on the environment? How did you get that from jdobbin's post? Oh crap, is this stalking? oops. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 How did you get that from jdobbin's post? Oh crap, is this stalking? oops. What is the basis of that apparently pointless remark? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Who's Doing What? Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 How did you get that from jdobbin's post? Oh crap, is this stalking? oops. What is the basis of that apparently pointless remark? Which remark? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 How did you get that from jdobbin's post? Oh crap, is this stalking? oops. What is the basis of that apparently pointless remark? Which remark? The one where you level a baseless accusation of stalking. Keep it to PM's to management please. I can visit my two sons' Grade 4 or Grade 5 lunch recess any time. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Who's Doing What? Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 How did you get that from jdobbin's post? Oh crap, is this stalking? oops. What is the basis of that apparently pointless remark? Which remark? The one where you level a baseless accusation of stalking. Keep it to PM's to management please. I can visit my two sons' Grade 4 or Grade 5 lunch recess any time. You've got it backwards jbg. I still want to know how he drew his conclusion from jdobbin's post. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 The one where you level a baseless accusation of stalking. Keep it to PM's to management please. I can visit my two sons' Grade 4 or Grade 5 lunch recess any time. You've got it backwards jbg. I still want to know how he drew his conclusion from jdobbin's post. Excuse me, sir. You accused someone of a crime. That's a strong reaction for what you consider to be a badly drawn conclusion about someone else's post. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Who's Doing What? Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 The one where you level a baseless accusation of stalking. Keep it to PM's to management please. I can visit my two sons' Grade 4 or Grade 5 lunch recess any time. You've got it backwards jbg. I still want to know how he drew his conclusion from jdobbin's post. Excuse me, sir. You accused someone of a crime. That's a strong reaction for what you consider to be a badly drawn conclusion about someone else's post. You are so lost a map and a GPS couldn't even help you now. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 You are so lost a map and a GPS couldn't even help you now. Do you enjoy insulting people? For somebody who is self-professed to be here to stand up to bullies you sure have no problems in bullying others. Do you feel like a big man because of your behaviour here? Could you explain your signature.... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Oh great, you again. You are so lost a map and a GPS couldn't even help you now. Do you enjoy insulting people? Sometimes. But there is no insult there. If you look, he IS metaphorically lost. I had already told him he had it backwards, yet he persisted. If you think you are going somewhere but have been going backwards the whole time, getting lost is one of those things that happens. The funny thing is, he seems to think accusing someone of "stalking" is a very serious issue. What do you think about that Ricki? For somebody who is self-professed to be here to stand up to bullies you sure have no problems in bullying others.I never said the reason I was here was to stand up to bullies. That is simply not true. However I can understand you being sore at being called out on your aggressive tactics, or bullying. I think you are now just trying to pick out every fault in me, real or imagined, because I called you on what you are. Even if you find a million faults with me, you will still be the same. Do you feel like a big man because of your behaviour here? No, getting 50 PM's from the same guy makes me feel like a big man. Could you explain your signature.... My sig is classic. Maybe now you can answer my question. It was only asked like 3 days ago. You said: So the Conservatives cannot do anything on the environment? And I asked: How did you get that from jdobbin's post? For Reference: jdobbins post: Part of the reason Harper hasn't been able to make gains is because the polls say that voters are concerned with the environment.The Clean Air Act just wasn't getting support. I don't think they can sell the same plan all over again nor offer something less. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I never said the reason I was here was to stand up to bullies. That is simply not true. However I can understand you being sore at being called out on your aggressive tactics, or bullying. I think you are now just trying to pick out every fault in me, real or imagined, because I called you on what you are. Even if you find a million faults with me, you will still be the same. Hmmmm, call my *tactics* what you will. It seems very odd that you call me out for aggressiveness then when you do the same thing I am picking out every fault??? Could you explain your signature.... My sig is classic. A classic example of improper behaviour and bullying? Please change it. It is ignorant. Maybe now you can answer my question. It was only asked like 3 days ago. You said: So the Conservatives cannot do anything on the environment? And I asked: How did you get that from jdobbin's post? For Reference: jdobbins post: Part of the reason Harper hasn't been able to make gains is because the polls say that voters are concerned with the environment.The Clean Air Act just wasn't getting support. I don't think they can sell the same plan all over again nor offer something less. My question re-stated. Was jdobbin meaning to say that the Conservatives are unable to act on the environment because they haven't done much on the file so far? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 Could you explain your signature.... My sig is classic. A classic example of improper behaviour and bullying? Please change it. It is ignorant. I see you've gone crying to Greg. Typical Bully. When he gets shown up the first thing he does is run and tell the teacher. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I see you've gone crying to Greg. Typical Bully. When he gets shown up the first thing he does is run and tell the teacher. Other posters don't want to see us bickering. You won't respond to a fair request. So I have asked Greg to deal with it. In fairness to other posters here if you have any further comment about this feel free to PM me. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I see you've gone crying to Greg. Typical Bully. When he gets shown up the first thing he does is run and tell the teacher. Other posters don't want to see us bickering. You won't respond to a fair request. So I have asked Greg to deal with it. In fairness to other posters here if you have any further comment about this feel free to PM me. Fine time to try and take the high road. So you threatening me is a "fair request" Get bent. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jdobbin Posted January 17, 2007 Author Report Posted January 17, 2007 Latest CTV poll. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories * Liberals: 35 per cent (-2) * Conservatives: 31 per cent (unchanged) * NDP: 15 per cent (+1) * Bloc Quebecois: 11 per cent (unchanged) * Green Party: 8 per cent (+1) Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 The best quote from the story. "This can't be good news for (Liberal Leader) Stephane Dion," Fife said. "Despite the enormous positive coverage out of the Liberal leadership convention, he hasn't been able to capitalize on that and put the party in majority territory." So the timing for the election looks to be in Harper's hands for the moment... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Catchme Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Yes, it certainly is apparent that the CPC has maxed out in their supporter base. No movement in the polls, or since the election either. They have no where to go but further down. In Ontario, the Liberals have 45 per cent -- a three-point drop since December. The Tories are stuck at 32 per cent. They lead the Liberals in the region 42 per cent to 26 per cent, or by 16 points. The NDP sits at 23 per cent, up five points from December. Woolstencroft said the NDP gains probably came in B.C.. Even in the West, the Conservatives are less dominant. In mid-July, they held a 30-point lead over the Liberals. The CPC have dropped 14 points in the west! LOLOLOL It is becoming more apparent, the CPC have lost the numbers who voted for them because they were peeved with the Liberals. I guess all those promises NOT MADE are catching up them! Woolstencroft noted that in mid-July, the Conservatives held an 11-point lead over the Liberals."Then the Conservatives had a pretty strong hold on public opinion. Now they are clearly starting to shift down to the low 30s. That is not a minority government," he said. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Saturn Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Yes, it certainly is apparent that the CPC has maxed out in their supporter base. No movement in the polls, or since the election either. They have no where to go but further down. I disagree. Wait for the March 20 budget with all the goodies. There will be so much cash handed out that many voters will vote conservative in expectation of their beer and popcorn cheques. Quote
blueblood Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Yes, it certainly is apparent that the CPC has maxed out in their supporter base. No movement in the polls, or since the election either. They have no where to go but further down. I disagree. Wait for the March 20 budget with all the goodies. There will be so much cash handed out that many voters will vote conservative in expectation of their beer and popcorn cheques. So the Canadian people are too stupid to spend their own money?, we're supposed to be serfs? Cuba's pretty warm this time of year... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Saturn Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 So the Canadian people are too stupid to spend their own money?, we're supposed to be serfs? Cuba's pretty warm this time of year... Oh, most Canadians know how to spend money, far more money than they can earn, which is coincidentally why the financial affairs of most Canadians are a disaster (and getting worse). Quote
Catchme Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Yes, it certainly is apparent that the CPC has maxed out in their supporter base. No movement in the polls, or since the election either. They have no where to go but further down. I disagree. Wait for the March 20 budget with all the goodies. There will be so much cash handed out that many voters will vote conservative in expectation of their beer and popcorn cheques. Well, perhaps, though I think not, Martin threw money around like water and that did not help. Harper is throwing money into PQ, which will get him no where, the CPC are dropping in the west, in particular BC, and he already gave us our shot of money, so none will be forthcoming. And they look poised to lose more seats in BC. Ontario is not going to go further ahead in CPC seats, so where would they pull these needed seats even to keep a minority government? I have more faith in Canadians I guess, or a less cyncical view of people's motivators. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 I have more faith in Canadians I guess, or a less cyncical view of people's motivators. And you have completely ignored the voting history of Canadians to arrive at this view? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
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