US Military testing new weapons systems. . . .

[GostHacked]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf....s.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Non-lethal? Ok ever cook something in a microwave? I hope these are volunteers. I would have to have it tested on non suspecting people. That could be um, bad. So is this how they test the new weapons? Actually you know what, this may be the right course. See how the American population feels about it before they use it in the battlefeild. Use your own people as guinnea pigs. But I guess that would be a problem in itself. So if the test subjects say no, does it get tested on someone else?

How often has the US Military tested it's new weapons on unsuspecting Americans? Something to look into and consider. I understand that new weapons systems need testing but how far does that go?

Accidents are going to happen as well, without a doubt.

[sharkman]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf....s.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Non-lethal? Ok ever cook something in a microwave? I hope these are volunteers. I would have to have it tested on non suspecting people. That could be um, bad. So is this how they test the new weapons? Actually you know what, this may be the right course. See how the American population feels about it before they use it in the battlefeild. Use your own people as guinnea pigs. But I guess that would be a problem in itself. So if the test subjects say no, does it get tested on someone else?

How often has the US Military tested it's new weapons on unsuspecting Americans? Something to look into and consider. I understand that new weapons systems need testing but how far does that go?

Accidents are going to happen as well, without a doubt.

In my opinion these kinds of weapons are the direct result of bleeding heart Liberals in the media and elsehere who decry death of even multi-murderers sentenced to death. Hard to say if they'll be beneficial or not. The taser has been met with mixed reviews. From what I understand, it's uncomfortable to those on the receiving end!

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear GostHacked,

How often has the US Military tested it's new weapons on unsuspecting Americans?

They have been caught a few times. The CIA was eventually found to be responsible in the death of a doctor (he jumped out a window) while testing LSD as a weapon on the 'unsuspecting'. I belive it took some 20-30 years for them to admit legal (and financial) culpability. They also towed a barge around San Francisco Harbour that was filled with a 'bacterial weapon' to test how WMD's might be spread. from...

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/cbw/bw.htm

Cities were unwittingly used as laboratories to test aerosolization and dispersal methods; Aspergillus fumigatus, B. subtilis var. globigii, and Serratia marcescens were used as simulants and released during experiments in New York City, San Francisco, and other sites. Concerns regarding potential public health hazards of simulant studies were raised after an outbreak of nosocomial S. marcescens (formerly Chromobacterium prodigiosum) urinary tract infections at Stanford University Hospital between September 1950 and February 1951, following covert experiments using S. marcescens as a simulant in San Francisco. A report from the Centers for Disease Control completed in 1977 found no association between reported morbidity and mortality from pneumonia and influenza and local simulant experiments.

A series of field tests took place under the auspices of the Biological Laboratories from 1943 to the mid-1960s:

In one such test, travelers at Washington National Airport were subjected to a harmless bacterium. Traps were placed throughout the facility to capture the bacterium as it flowed in the air. Laboratory personnel, dressed as travelers carrying brief cases, walked the corridors and without detection sprayed the bacterium into the atmosphere.

In the New York Subway, a light bulb filled with the same harmless bacterium was dropped on the tracks. The organism spread throughout the system within 20 minutes. Traps and monitoring devices showed the amount of organism—if it were one of the predictable, dangerous organisms, could have killed thousands of persons. No one was injured or became ill as a result of the test.

In San Francisco, a U.S. Navy ship, equipped with spray devices operated by Fort Detrick personnel, sprayed serratia marcescens, a non-pathogenic microorganism that is easily detected, while the ship plied the San Francisco Bay. It spread more than 30 miles to monitoring stations.

A jet aircraft equipped with spray devices, flew a course near Victoria, Texas, and the harmless particles were monitored in the Florida Keys.

There is some speculation that the US tested laser weaponry when they invaded Panama, and some speculation that the Anthrax attacks in the US were in fact perpetuated by the US gov't, in order to test delivery mechanisms. If you'll recall, the particular strain of anthrax used was traced back to a US army lab, and the investigation ended. from...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

DNA sequencing of the anthrax taken from Robert Stevens (the first victim) was conducted at The Institute for Genomic Research beginning in December 2001. Sequencing was finished within a month and the analysis was published in the journal Science in early 2002 see abstract here. The analysis revealed a number of differences that ruled out laboratories in England, and subsequent testing showed the anthrax to be identical to the original Ames strain from Fort Detrick.

As to the 'volunteer testing', yes it does happen. In my "Britannica Book of the Year (1946), prison inmates volunteered to be 'guinea pigs' for malaria infections, (and I assume the were compensated somehow), and I also am told that the police must receive a taser jolt before they are issued one. One officer I personally know said that a friend of his got tasered, and he admitted that it was the most painful thing he ever felt in his life.

It is my understanding, though that the vast majority of testing is done on animals.

[America1]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf....s.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Non-lethal? Ok ever cook something in a microwave? I hope these are volunteers. I would have to have it tested on non suspecting people. That could be um, bad. So is this how they test the new weapons? Actually you know what, this may be the right course. See how the American population feels about it before they use it in the battlefeild. Use your own people as guinnea pigs. But I guess that would be a problem in itself. So if the test subjects say no, does it get tested on someone else?

How often has the US Military tested it's new weapons on unsuspecting Americans? Something to look into and consider. I understand that new weapons systems need testing but how far does that go?

Accidents are going to happen as well, without a doubt.

Here is the quotes....

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

"(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

He goes out of his way to explain his reasoning and yet you still try to make a BS partisan thread out of it. It would be laughable if it wasn't so typical of the way liberal and anti-American hysteria has consumed so many American democrats, Europeans and Canadians.