The Thin White Line

[Black Dog]

Look at that list again. everyone involved a western nation. In fact, some of the more bloodier deathtolls are at the hands of over developed nations.....

the vast majority are conflicts involving developing countries.

So, in your list we see a few direct foreign interventions, the odd territorial dispute and nationalist struggle usually playe dout against the backdrop of post-colonialism or the Cold War. Completely absent is any conflict between liberal democracies.

[M.Dancer]

Thats's neither here nor there. Liberal democracies as we have seen are quite ready to go to war as they have always been, even in the days when the prededed their declaration with a prayer....

most btw, are foriegn interventions

[Black Dog]

Thats's neither here nor there. Liberal democracies as we have seen are quite ready to go to war as they have always been, even in the days when the prededed their declaration with a prayer....

So why is war between liberal democracies so rare?

[jbg]

Even if that were, that's a very major difference. One's civilized. One isn't.

jbg,

Don't you think it's wrong to write off an entire group of people based on the actions of a few ? We haven't applied that to other religions or nations either.

Here's my response, so typical of those people:

This article shows a situation where the US, Israel and/or Harper cannot be blamed for savagery. Can Blair be blamed?

Deadly stampede at rally in Yemen(link)

51 KILLED, 200 HURT AFTER PRESIDENT'S CAMPAIGN SPEECH

By Ahmed Al-Haj

Associated Press

SAN`A, Yemen -- A stampede broke out Tuesday in a stadium packed with thousands of people for an election campaign rally for Yemen's president, killing at least 51 people and injuring more than 200, including youths bused in for the event.

The tragedy came as President Ali Abdullah Saleh -- in power for nearly 30 years -- is campaigning in the oil-rich nation's first competitive presidential elections, set for Sept. 20, against a single rival who has drawn tens of thousands to his rallies.

``The spontaneous scramble of Yemeni people who rushed out with huge crowds to take part in the electoral rally is a clear evidence that Yemenis are lovers of democracy,'' he was quoted as saying by the Yemeni official news agency.

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The stampede broke out minutes after Saleh finished addressing the rally and left the stadium.

Participants were constantly moving in and out of the stadium. Medical and security officials said the stampede broke out when some people leaving ran into those entering, causing some to trip and fall and be trampled.

Overcrowding and a lack of clearly marked exits contributed to the stampede, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the press.

A statement from the Ibb provincial government put the death toll at 51 with more than 230 injured. Witnesses reported seeing children and teens among the bodies brought out from the crowd.

Opposition groups called for an investigation and urged the government to punish those responsible for the tragedy. The government announced that campaign rallies will continue.

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[JerrySeinfeld]

I don't agree with label "conservative". It's like calling all liberals commies. We didn't attack them because of their beliefs or their customs but because they attacked us. He's blaming the victim.

Conservatism generally means less government involvement in society, not more.

That's one facet of political conservatism, the part that's focused on economics. But what about social conservatism, which seems to be more about upholding select traditions and instiutions? That's the paradox of modern conservatism. Political Islam resolves it by simply adopting an authoritarian political approach. Most western conservatives (many of whom have at least some socon leanings) just skip over it.

I agree with Blackdog's theory: if you wanna oppress people's rights...BRING ON THE MUSLIMS - they can do it much more efficiently, effectively and squash any opposition.

[speaker]

Thats's neither here nor there. Liberal democracies as we have seen are quite ready to go to war as they have always been, even in the days when the prededed their declaration with a prayer....

So why is war between liberal democracies so rare?

I think that wars between liberal democracies are as prevalent as any other given the number of liberal democracies in relation to all the rest. The difference is that western democracies are the arms suppliers and stategists fighting for the resources of other nations by buying and trading "partners" in those nations.

International diplomacy at it's best is keeping the casualty figures at home to a minimum while aquiring the food, energy, technology, etc. for ones own country.

[Wilber]

Thats's neither here nor there. Liberal democracies as we have seen are quite ready to go to war as they have always been, even in the days when the prededed their declaration with a prayer....

So why is war between liberal democracies so rare?

I think that wars between liberal democracies are as prevalent as any other given the number of liberal democracies in relation to all the rest. The difference is that western democracies are the arms suppliers and stategists fighting for the resources of other nations by buying and trading "partners" in those nations.

International diplomacy at it's best is keeping the casualty figures at home to a minimum while aquiring the food, energy, technology, etc. for ones own country.

Name two in the last hundred years. Name one even unless you want to include wars like India and Pakistan.

[speaker]

I think the war in sudan is an example of what I'm talking about, the war in afghanistan would be another, Iraq another. before you respond read my previous message.

[Wilber]

I think the war in sudan is an example of what I'm talking about, the war in afghanistan would be another, Iraq another. before you respond read my previous message.

I think that wars between liberal democracies are as prevalent as any other given the number of liberal democracies in relation to all the rest. The difference is that western democracies are the arms suppliers and stategists fighting for the resources of other nations by buying and trading "partners" in those nations.

This was your post.

How many liberal democracies are actively "fighting for the resources of other nations by buying and trading "partners" in those nations." in competition with other liberal democracies? Examples please. Just because countries have interests in different regions doesn't mean they are trying to deny access to others.