Pellaken Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 I'm gonna ask everyone to take part in this fun interactive poll! I am going to list a bunch of possible unite-the-right candidates, your job is simple. rate them A+ = he's my top pick (please, only have 3 of these MAX) A = he'd be great B = he's good C = he's ok, I guess... D = no. F = no way F- = NNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! anyone but him!!! (only 3 max, please) note : if some of these guys are dead, I apoligise. also note, quesiton marks mean I am unsure of the name also, please state weather you are: CA supporter PC supporter disgruntled conservative (AKA right wing, but nethier) Other (AKA, sepratist, liberal, new democrat, etc...) BC: gordon campbell john reynolds chuck strahl keith martin kim campbell AB: ralph klien steven harper stockwell day preston manning dianne ablonczy grant hill peter lougheed don getty jim prentice joe clark don mazenkowski jason kenny monte solberg craig chandler SK: elwin hermanson david orchard MB: rick borostick gary filmon inky mark brian pallister ON: mike harris bill davis tony clement jim flarahaty janet ecker ernie eves PQ: jean charest mario dumont brian mulrooney andra bachand heward grafftey ______ borque (former mtl mayor, ADQ all-star candidate) NB: bernard lord NS: peter mackay, john hamm, robert stanfeild PE: pat binns NL: loylla hearn Quote
Pellaken Posted September 19, 2003 Author Report Posted September 19, 2003 my ranking ME = Other (New Democrat) BC: gordon campbell - B john reynolds - B chuck strahl - B keith martin - C kim campbell - F AB: ralph klien - A steven harper - D stockwell day - D preston manning - D dianne ablonczy - B grant hill - B peter lougheed - B don getty - C jim prentice - B joe clark - C don mazenkowski - B jason kenny - B monte solberg - B craig chandler - C SK: elwin hermanson - B david orchard - F MB: rick borostick - C gary filmon - C inky mark - C brian pallister - B ON: mike harris - A bill davis - C tony clement - B jim flarahaty - B janet ecker - B ernie eves - C PQ: jean charest - A mario dumont - A brian mulrooney - D andra bachand - C heward grafftey - F ______ borque - B NB: bernard lord - A+ NS: peter mackay - B john hamm - C robert stanfeild - B PE: pat binns - B NL: loylla hearn - C Quote
westcoast99 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 (edited) BC Edited August 11, 2015 by Gugsy Quote
Pellaken Posted September 19, 2003 Author Report Posted September 19, 2003 actually, I thought he was dead. Quote
westcoast99 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 (edited) Not that I know of. Edited August 11, 2015 by Gugsy Quote
sir_springer Posted September 20, 2003 Report Posted September 20, 2003 My ranking? Stephen Harper: A+ All the rest: Second best, period. Quote
Mr. Chater Posted September 20, 2003 Report Posted September 20, 2003 BC: gordon campbell - B- john reynolds - B+ chuck strahl - C keith martin - C kim campbell - F- AB: ralph klien - B+ steven harper - C- stockwell day - D+ preston manning - D dianne ablonczy - B grant hill - B peter lougheed - B don getty - C jim prentice - B joe clark - C+ don mazenkowski - B jason kenny - B monte solberg - B craig chandler - C SK: elwin hermanson - B david orchard - F MB: rick borostick - C gary filmon - C inky mark - C brian pallister - B ON: mike harris - B bill davis - C tony clement - B jim flarahaty - B janet ecker - B ernie eves - C PQ: jean charest - B mario dumont - A- brian mulrooney - C andra bachand - C heward grafftey - F ______ borque - B NB: bernard lord - B+ NS: peter mackay - B+ john hamm - C+ robert stanfeild - B- PE: pat binns - B- NL: loylla hearn - C- Yes, i know. There is not A+ because i am not too sure yet. Quote
westcoast99 Posted September 20, 2003 Report Posted September 20, 2003 (edited) What has he ever accomplished other than shrugging off the sovereignty question? Edited August 11, 2015 by Gugsy Quote
Alliance Fanatic Posted September 20, 2003 Report Posted September 20, 2003 Here's my listing of leaders for a united right. Leaders I would support A+-Mike Harris A -Stephen Harper B -Stockwell Day B -Benard Lord B -Mario Dumont Leaders I would not support -Scott Brison -Greg Thompson -Ernie Eves -David Orchard Quote "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" - George Orwell's Animal Farm
Pellaken Posted September 20, 2003 Author Report Posted September 20, 2003 list of people that are acceptable to most Loylla Hearn Pat Binns Bernard Lord Mike Harris John Hamm Andre Bachand ____ Borque Bill Davis Janet Ecker Jum Flarahity Tony Clement Brian Pallister Inky Mark Gary Filmon Rick Rorostick Craig Chandler Monte Solberg Don Mazenkowski Jim Prentice Peter Lougheed Grant Hill Steven Harper Ralph Klien Chuck Strahl John Reynolds Gordon Campbell keep the rating pouring in, eventually we will have one name left, who no one loves, but who no one hates either. Quote
Pellaken Posted September 20, 2003 Author Report Posted September 20, 2003 I'm gonna post this at other forums. basacally, I am going to total everyone. the people with the fewest "no"'s will be still eligable. then, from then, the ones with the highest average ranking. Quote
westcoast99 Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 You forgot MacKay on your list. Quote
AlbertaConservative Posted September 26, 2003 Report Posted September 26, 2003 ralph klien A+ steven harper A+ mike harris A preston manning A stockwell day B+ bernard lord B+ jim prentice B jim flarahaty B peter mackay C- Quote
Mr. Chater Posted September 26, 2003 Report Posted September 26, 2003 I believe the following have a shot: Mike Harris Steven Harper Ralph Klien Peter Mackay Quote
Craig Read Posted September 26, 2003 Report Posted September 26, 2003 Has to be someone that is 'non-aligned' - Harris is the only choice as the Post mentioned today. Harris would be great as a counterpoise to Martin. Quote
daniel Posted September 26, 2003 Report Posted September 26, 2003 I thought the right-wing was opposed to same-sex mergers. Now here are a whole bunch of guys talking about forming a union together. Quote
westcoast99 Posted September 26, 2003 Report Posted September 26, 2003 (edited) Harris would be a good choice, he's a sharp politician. Edited August 11, 2015 by Gugsy Quote
Neal.F. Posted September 26, 2003 Report Posted September 26, 2003 I'm making my choices here based on one thing. electability. I am convinced that in spite of the big emphasis the media puts on youth, it is a liability, rather than an asset. a leader should be mature , but not geriatric. Rarely does one have the life experience to run a country, let alone survive the slings and barbs of an election campaign against the Liberals. Brian Mulroney was a rare exception to the rule at 44. we also have to keep in mind that whoever wins will be up against Paul Martin, and the Liberal organization which is flush with cash, and the fact that time is of the essence like never before. A+ Mike Harris (proven talent, politically, and ethically. Did exactly what he said he would do, and stood by it when up for re-election. A real straight talker. Canada needs a CSR and right about now. While he lacks French, if he could get someone like Mario Dumont abaord as Quebec lieutenant, demonstration that a young Quebecer will have a big say and bright future in a Harris govt, then things can happen in a big way) A+ Ralph Klein (doubt he'd be interested if it meant standiing in Harris' way. Will probably endorse Harris) A Gordon Campbell ( Drawbacks: Has not yet completed a full term as Premier, and the DWI. However, has made some tough decisions as premier.) A Gary Filmon (3 time provincial premier. ran a decent government, which included Brian Pallister and Vic Toews. Drawback: not as well known as the others, so he gets an A rather than A +) A Jean Charest ( Too recently elected.... He has potential, but needs to show us what he can do.) A Bernard Lord (a good solid appealing choice to many. Bilingual, but needs more time. 37 is too young.) B Jim Prentice (Would make A if he was better known and there's precious little time to "get acquainted")) B Jim Flaherty (He will likely be the leading contender to replace the defeated Eves as Ont. PC leader, and as Premier after "Buyer's remorse" sets in with Ontario voters on October 3d. Otherwise I'd make him an A) B Bernard Lord (a good solid appealing choice to many. Bilingual, but needs more time. 37 is too young.) B Jason Kenney (an excelent choice, would make A, but for his age (or lack thereof) and the fact that the best way for a United Right to succeed would be by drawing in contenders from outside either caucus.) B Stockwell Day (has distinguished himself as an MP and forign affairs critic, however, would probably be dogged by previous baggage) B Preston Manning ( Like Mulroney, Davis, Maz & co, would contribute more at this point in the role of eminence grise) C Mario Dumont: (i've been generous in giving him a C. He'd be higher had he fared better in the election....But once again, too young. Needs to prove himself. Should consider running as a candidate in riviere du loup) C Stephen Harper ( Has not been able to move the masses. He will be remembered well for falling on his sword for the good of the country, and would be a shoo-in for Alberta Premier once Kleinb steps down) C Peter Mackay (Has not been able to move the masses. He will be remembered well for falling on his sword for the good of the country, and would be a shoo-in for Nova Scotia Premier once John Hamm steps down) F -----: Scott Brison ( No thanks. He forced MacKay into the position of having to sign on with Orchard. Furthermore, Conservative governments have always been elected as a coalition of fiscal and social conservatives. He has proven he can't work with the latter, based on his demands for the firing of Elsie Wayne as Dep. leader for having the temerity to say that homosexuals should keep their private lives private. The little weasel forgot who kept the party afloat after the 1993 drubbing.) Quote
Pellaken Posted September 27, 2003 Author Report Posted September 27, 2003 Pat Binns Bernard Lord Mike Harris Janet Ecker Jim Flarahity Tony Clement Brian Pallister Gary Filmon Jim Prentice Steven Harper Ralph Klien Gordon Campbell these 12 men are the only realistic leadership possibly contenders. I'd like to get this list down to 3 (or even 5) feel free to expand on why any of these guys are not good. Quote
Mr. Chater Posted September 27, 2003 Report Posted September 27, 2003 i would probably say: Steven Harper Ralph Klien Mike Harris Quote
westcoast99 Posted September 27, 2003 Report Posted September 27, 2003 If I were to narrow it down to who I think will take a run at the job: Mike Harris Bernard Lord Jim Prentice Brian Pallister Stephen Harper I think Peter MacKay knows that he is still very young and will most likely have a shot at the PMO under a United Conservative party in the future. Quote
Mr. Chater Posted September 28, 2003 Report Posted September 28, 2003 ooo, i didn't put my men in order I think Mike Harris has got it anyways but this is what i believe. (IN ORDER). Mike Harris Ralph Klien Bernard Lord Stephen Harper Quote
theWatcher Posted September 28, 2003 Report Posted September 28, 2003 I'm from Alberta and even I wouldn't vote for Ralph federally. Frankly he's an embarrassment. He shows up drunk and makes stupid statements even after claiming to have quit drinking. Remember his “Shoot shovel something” comment to the Americans two weeks ago? Or when he threw coins at the homeless people and told them to go get jobs. His commitment to fiscal responsibility ended long ago and he is spending money as fast as possible these days. But on the positive side he would have a good campaign slogan: “Ralf for a better Canada” Quote
Craig Read Posted September 28, 2003 Report Posted September 28, 2003 True, Ralph is a spender that is for sure. I would not classify him as a true conservative, though given the options he would be preferable to the Liberals. I read that non-discretionary spending is up 50 % vs. 10 years ago. This is insane. Population pressure, some inflation and perhaps infrastructure build can account for some of this increase, but this is just loose fiscal policy and should be stopped. Federally for the Conservatives I think Pellaken should throw off his NDP cape and make the move over. Pell is the self annointed genius and PEI commentator. I believe that the PEI model has so much to offer Canada......Maybe Pell can reform the country based on the PEI experience. After all the Farm is a wonderful place to live. Go Pell Go ! Quote
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