Survey suggests trans activism is turning off many Canadians, especially minorities

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

How would did you know?

Did your Gi Joe and Barbie dolls come with a camel toe and crotch bulge?

Just remember the colored girls go; Do do do do do do do, do do do do do do do, do do do do do do do, do do do do do do do, daaaaa!

 

 

How would did I know.

Well Mr. Alternate Reality, I was there.

[Barquentine]

23 hours ago, User said:

Does that mean forcing girls in High School to compete with a boy and get destroyed? Losing their place on the podium?

Do women have to live with sharing their personal spaces with men who think they are women?

Do we need to "live and let live" a child into transitioning without their parents being told or telling them if they do not approve their child will die and sending them off to get butchered?

1. I have previously said on this forum that men who transition should not be allowed to compete in women's sports.

2. A lot of public washrooms just have stalls. Are you offended by the sound trans people  make when they're taking a dump?

3. That's an idea that's been way, way, way overblown by the right as a scare tactic.

4. Adult trans people just want to live and have the same life, liberty, and freedom from hate that you and I have.

5. How have trans people ruined your life? What are you so afraid of?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

2. A lot of public washrooms just have stalls. Are you offended by the sound trans people  make when they're taking a dump?

Are you suggesting that we pass a law that says they are only allowed in washrooms if there are only stalls and no common facilities? So public pools and such for example where there are showers or other facilities they would be barred from using female facilities if they are a biological male?

You're okay with that?

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

That's an idea that's been way, way, way overblown by the right as a scare tactic.

Absolute lie. But if that's true I assume you support laws that guarantee the parents right to know in every case right? Right? Barquentine??  Right?

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Adult trans people just want to live and have the same life, liberty, and freedom from hate that you and I have.

But they don't. It would be fine if they did but they expect other people to change their lives to suit their whims at once.

 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

How have trans people ruined your life? What are you so afraid of?

So we can get rid of all of the trans laws and you'll be fine with that? After all you claim they want nothing to do with my life so obviously there's no need for laws that force me to do anything right? Right? Hello??

[User]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

1. I have previously said on this forum that men who transition should not be allowed to compete in women's sports.

2. A lot of public washrooms just have stalls. Are you offended by the sound trans people  make when they're taking a dump?

3. That's an idea that's been way, way, way overblown by the right as a scare tactic.

4. Adult trans people just want to live and have the same life, liberty, and freedom from hate that you and I have.

5. How have trans people ruined your life? What are you so afraid of?

So... you still want to push this shit on people, just not to the complete absurdity of forcing women to have to compete against men. 

Yeah, stalls do not help when the trans dude is in there jerking off and all the women outside can clearly see and hear what is going on in there. Stalls don't help when they still feel unsafe and uncomfortable being in the bathroom as a whole with some dude trying to look like a woman. Stalls do not help when that dude trying to look like a woman decides to assault or rape them. Stalls do not help in a general locker room setting, having to see some half-dressed or fully naked dude pretending to be a woman in the same room with you... 

Stop trying to normalize this shit and expect women to be OK with it. 

It is not an idea where leftists get enough power and control, they set the laws and policies to transition children socially with or without a parent's consent, and they oppose measures or laws that say parents must be informed and approve. 

I have not personally been murdered, but I still care about others not being murdered and support laws to prevent that and punish people for doing so. See how that works?

 

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, User said:

Yeah, stalls do not help when the trans dude is in there jerking off and all the women outside can clearly see and hear what is going on in there.

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

19 hours ago, User said:

I have not personally been murdered, but I still care about others not being murdered and support laws to prevent that and punish people for doing so. See how that works?

How many Canadians have been murdered by a trans person? What percentage of total murders is that? In other word WTF are you talking about?

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So we can get rid of all of the trans laws and you'll be fine with that?

WTF are you guys talking about? Laws? You mean the rights you're entitled to but they shouldn't?

 

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But they don't.

My point exactly. Especially the hate and bigotry they face from people like you!

 

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

you support laws that guarantee the parents right to know in every case right? Right? Barquentine??  Right?

That's not a simple thing. In most cases of course the parents should know. And age is a big factor - young kids just saying something should in nearly all  cases should be ignored.

But what about older kids who are terrified about their parent's response? Especially if those parents have been abusive. It happens. Those kids need some safe counselling.

Sorry the world isn't the one-size-fits-all place you think it is. 

[User]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

It is amazing how much you people will lie to protect the trans madness you want to force onto others.

Live and let live? BS. 
 

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

How many Canadians have been murdered by a trans person? What percentage of total murders is that? In other word WTF are you talking about?

Are you being purposely obtuse or did you really not grasp the concept of the analogy?

I mean, I even explained it.

The point is that something doesn’t have to happen to me for me to care that it does happen to others. 
 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

WTF are you guys talking about? Laws? You mean the rights you're entitled to but they shouldn't?

??? 

So, I know that English is a challenge for you. But surely you can do better than that? I'm not even sure what you're asking.

I'm referring to laws. If you need me to explain what a law is to you let me know and I'll see if dr seuss has written anything on the subject to make it easier for you

 

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My point exactly. Especially the hate and bigotry they face from people like you!

You don't have a point other than the one of the top of your head. And the hatred and bigotry they face is peanuts compared to the hatred and bigotry people like you express to people who disagre with them.

But your claim is that they just want to live their own lives and not bother anyone else. I said that they don't, and that they do want to bother someone else. And now you're claiming that this is your point exactly.

So if I read what you wrote you agree with my claim that they don't want to just live in peace, they want to go after people other than themselves and demand what they do in their lives.

You have no idea what you're talking about do you?

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

That's not a simple thing.

It is a simple thing. The parents should always know. Unless the parent is not the guardian, unless the state or someone else has taken over guardianship of that child, the parent must always know, period full stop. 

The child has concerns then they can certainly let the authorities know and the authorities can work with a child and the parents to make sure the child is safe

But the trans community said the parents never have a right to know. But teachers and educators were better judges of whether or not the children should tell their parents and the parents should only be advised if the teacher decides that it's appropriate.

Parents have a right to know what's going on with their children. You may not like that but that's a simple fact

The trans community demands a lot of things that infringe on other people's rights. They demands that women allow men to play in their sporting events. They demand that women and children allow men to shower with them in public places. They have demanded that children be exposed to pornography showing gay sex, and those books literally had to be removed from British Columbia schools as well as others. I'm not talking about subjective pictures I'm talking about full on oral sex and their excuse was we need to normalize same-sex Behavior and transgenderism. Kids as young as seven and eight years old had access to this

 

So you have not been telling the truth. While I'm sure there's plenty of individual trans people who had just rather quietly live their life the fact is the trans advocates, which includes a lot of non-trans leftist social justice warriors, have been out there demanding that parents give up their children their rights to their children and that people give up their own personal rights and be jailed if they say the wrong thing

Conservatives are all about just letting people get on with their lives. I was there when the debates were going on about gays and gay marriage, and the majority of conservatives made it crystal clear that they were not interested in what goes on in people's bedrooms between consenting adults or what two people call each other. That's why even harper had to drop the whole issue of gay marriage and never do anything about it despite it being a supposed conservative platform plank only a short time before.

It's you and your people that want to dictate by force of law what other people have to do and remove their rights. And that's why there's blowback

 

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Conservatives are all about just letting people get on with their lives.

Even considering how often you lie, that's gotta be one of your greatest hits!

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Even considering how often you lie, that's gotta be one of your greatest hits!

Simple truth, Conservatives believe in smaller government, less interference, and lost the protect rights rather than inflict requirements on other people

Let's take a quick look. Currently the liberals are trying to force antifreeze speech legislation through the house yet again, the leftists in the senate are trying to pass laws to make it illegal to say things about residential schools they don't like subject to jail time, the left is constantly promoting laws to compel speech they take away all kinds of ownership rights, etc

Conservatives have fought against all of that and have promoted more freedoms, less taxes, unless regulation

Conservatives absolutely believe that people should get on with their life and have the freedom to do what they like. Liberals are repressive and believe that people should be controlled. Otherwise they would spend their money on beer and popcorn.  

I'm sure it offends your echo chamber sensibilities but unfortunately that's the truth. A hundred years ago things were different but these days conservatives of the party of freedom and personal rights whereas the liberals and left are the political organizations of repression and excessive government oversight and control.