al-Qaida Sought War Between U.S. and Iran

[sharkman]

New data recovered from al-Qaida shows they have been hurt by continued U.S. operations and the training of Iraqi security forces. Massive arrests, seizures of weapons, squeezing off of the militant's financial outlets, creating divisions within its ranks and training of Iraqi security forces have all taken their toll, documents show al-Qaida admits.

It is revealed that their strategies include trying to destroy the relationship between the U.S. and the Shiites in Iraq, as well as escalating the tension between the U.S. and Iran. This links to the damning news for enemies of the U.S.

In these documents they drop all pretense of the U.S. being crusaders, not using those terms at all. It's just another cheap attempt at trying to make the conflict a religious one when it is not.

This is more great news for the Bush Administration, which has recently seen the top terrorist in Iraq killed, Karl Rove exonerated and it looks like a good June thus far.

[Rue]

New data recovered from al-Qaida shows they have been hurt by continued U.S. operations and the training of Iraqi security forces. Massive arrests, seizures of weapons, squeezing off of the militant's financial outlets, creating divisions within its ranks and training of Iraqi security forces have all taken their toll, documents show al-Qaida admits.

It is revealed that their strategies include trying to destroy the relationship between the U.S. and the Shiites in Iraq, as well as escalating the tension between the U.S. and Iran. This links to the damning news for enemies of the U.S.

In these documents they drop all pretense of the U.S. being crusaders, not using those terms at all. It's just another cheap attempt at trying to make the conflict a religious one when it is not.

This is more great news for the Bush Administration, which has recently seen the top terrorist in Iraq killed, Karl Rove exonerated and it looks like a good June thus far.

I am interested how you quote new data to make a point when something tells me you never saw this data or have authenticated it actually came from al-Qaida. I appreciate you want to support what the US is doing and are looking for proof that establishes a good guy bad guy scenario but excuse me if I pass on your zeal because for me plenty of stories come out of such incursions and you and I have no way of knowing whether they are authentic or simply planted stories.

Did they kill this sob? Probably. Did they find data...maybe. Does it say what you are suggesting it states, who the fk knows.

I will say this - you know and I know that the reason the Americans went into Iraq was a lie. You can spin it anyway you want to be an anti-terrorist war but the fact is the Americans were sent in for two reasonns; i-this is all about revenge and George Bush Sr's ego; ii-its all about securing oil.

The incursion into Iraq has been an unmitigated disaster. It has cost the US quadra billions of dollars and has crippled their economy. More to the point it was nothing more then a crass opportunity for Haliburton and other companies close to the Chaney Bush empire to grab contracts to rebuild the country.

These companies have gone into the country and refuse to hire Iraqis or share their wealth with them.

Terrorism?

The US blew up Iraq and sent it back to the stone age. The average Iraqi has no fresh water, electricity and jobs. They live in fear of al-Queda which the American military has been unable to stop.

You expect Iraqis to be grateful to a power that has demolished their infrastructure and engages in a never ending war of attrition with al-Queda?

Iraq as a fkng mess to start with and the Americans went in to secure oil pipelines. They had no problem using Hussein as an ally as long as he fought Iran and kept the war going on destablizing the region and requiring both sides to sell their oil cheap.

This notion that the Americans are fighting terrorists is nice domestic consumption.

The fact is the US armed forces have been used as security guards to try police a pipe line which any fool can get to and blwo holes in at any given time.

The fact is the US has been unable to secure a safe source and passage of oil out of Iraq.

The fact is oil prices have sky rocketed since the invasion.

The fact is Bush was exposed as a total and utter liar.

The fact is the terrorist attacks have not abated at all despite your latest spin each hour by the hour bombs go off.

The fact is it is impossible for the US conventional armed forces to fight and eradicate terrorism in Iraq and the Pentagon warned Bush, Chaney and that complete idiot Rumsfeld of this fact and were ignored.

The fact is it is a myth to try portray the US army as fighting terrorism in Iraq. They are in fact being asked to protect the interests of the greedy corporations now inside Iraq making a fortune off of the death and destruction of the Iraqi infrastructure.

If this was truly about fighting terrorism the US would not have sent in a conventional army. They would have sent in quick moving, elite, deadly anti terrorist commando units and strategically taken out terrorist sites. The decision to keep American troops on the ground thereby creating a prolonged state of attrition is no different then what the British did in Ireland or so many other conventional troops have been asked to do.

Conventional armies do not belong in cities occupying them and trying to police them. That is not their function should bever be their function and always ends up in disaster.

[Black Dog]

I'm always suspicious when "evidence" emerges that supports a pre-existing narrative down to the letter.

[sharkman]

I'm always suspicious when "evidence" emerges that supports a pre-existing narrative down to the letter.

Seems like you guys are only suspicious of info if it's good for the U.S. For instance today I heard a news report that stated some detainees under U.S. supervision were fed bread and water for a time in 2003. News reports like these are embraced by those who tend to frown on the U.S.

Anywhoo, it's still good news for fighting terrorism as al-Qaida is recognized as such even by the CANADIAN government!