August1991 Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 Trudeau Snr famously referred to Albertans as "those Communists who hate me... " Trudeau Snr was like Lincoln, he wanted to maintain a federal Canada. ==== Carney pays lip-service to Albertans. He thinks that he has the federal vote. Quote
John Stone Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 Trudeau Snr was easily the most charismatic leader in Kanada's history. (Trudeaumania) Suppose one of his greatest achievements, considering the growing Nationalism in Quebec, was negotiating constitutional independence, warts and all (Notwithstanding Clause) from Britain, finally establishing the Nation's independence from Great Britain. Until patriation, the majority of Canadians believed Canada was a sovereign Nation. Trudeau Snr. was a visionary ......... he believed in a so-called, 'just' society - later the Nation attempted to capture Snr.'s magic with 'Just..in" Quote
August1991 Posted May 2 Author Report Posted May 2 16 hours ago, John Stone said: Trudeau Snr was easily the most charismatic leader in Kanada's history. ==== Wrong. John Diefenbaker was our first charismatic leader Quote
August1991 Posted May 2 Author Report Posted May 2 Canada is a remarkable country of different people. Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney have kept us together. We get along. This guy Carney? I'm not so sure. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 6 hours ago, August1991 said: Canada is a remarkable country of different people. Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney have kept us together. We get along. This guy Carney? I'm not so sure. Mulroney and Chretien joined us at the hip to the US and Mexico. Carney is stepping back and reaching out to Europe, China and India. Doesn't seem very different to me. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
John Stone Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 (edited) 9 hours ago, August1991 said: Wrong. John Diefenbaker was our first charismatic leader ........... Diefenbaker was charismatic ................ but pales in comparison to Trudeau Snr. Edited May 2 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Mulroney and Chretien joined us at the hip to the US and Mexico. Carney is stepping back and reaching out to Europe, China and India. Doesn't seem very different to me. There has been a seismic shift in Canada / U.S. / Mexico trade relations. Immediately following Trump's inauguration it was obvious to everyone that the relationship Canucks (World) thought they had with the U.S. was over. There is no trust dealing with the U.S. and certainly no stability in terms of trade, defense or ideology The relationship that once was (Global) will never return. Canada will benefit by diversifying as will Europe ....... the wheels of change are in motion and they have inertia. The U.S. will continue to be a great power, but diminished. Trust is gone. Edited May 2 by John Stone Quote
August1991 Posted May 5 Author Report Posted May 5 On 5/2/2026 at 7:35 AM, Michael Hardner said: Mulroney and Chretien joined us at the hip to the US and Mexico. Carney is stepping back and reaching out to Europe, China and India. Doesn't seem very different to me. During the Cold War, Trudeau Snr the federalist discussed a "contractual link". Quote
August1991 Posted May 5 Author Report Posted May 5 On 5/2/2026 at 9:53 AM, John Stone said: ........... Diefenbaker was charismatic ................ but pales in comparison to Trudeau Snr. ... Agree. TV was new. Like Instagram nowadays. Quote
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