Antichristian Bigotry Rears Its Ugly Head

[Hodad]

19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Yes. We are saying no one should be proud of their sin. That is the point. That is his point. That is why what the Bulls are doing is so abhorrent. They fired him for a very basic tenant of Christianity. 

Glad you can finally admit that the your argument is that LGBTQ+ individuals are shameful and sinful simply because of who they are rather than because they harm anyone. 

That facade was heavy any not with toting around. 

You can agree with his unhinged ranting, but it's wildly dishonest to pretend that he didn't say anything disrespectful or offensive. 

And the word is "tenet." 

As before, he's allowed to believe whatever kooky bullshit he wants. He has a literal right to shout his kookiness to the world. But he doesn't have a right to do so without social consequences. 

Free speech is not consequence free speech. It's only free from government reprisal. That's it. 

 

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[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Glad you can finally admit that the your argument is that LGBTQ+ individuals are shameful and sinful simply because of who they are rather than because they harm anyone. 

No one said that. That is just the strawman you want to argue against. The sin is not the sinner. 

 

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

And the word is "tenet." 

Autocorrect

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

As before, he's allowed to believe whatever kooky bullshit he wants. He has a literal right to shout his kookiness to the world. But he doesn't have a right to do so without social consequences. 

Free speech is not consequence free speech. It's only free from government reprisal. That's it. 

Actually, he is protected:

Applicants, employees and former employees are protected from employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or transgender status), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history).

Applicants, employees and former employees are also protected from retaliation (punishment) for filing a charge or complaint of discrimination, participating in a discrimination investigation or lawsuit, or opposing discrimination (for example, threatening to file a charge or complaint of discrimination).

Employees have a right to: Not be harassed or discriminated against (treated less favorably) because of race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or transgender status), national origin, disability, age (40 or older) or genetic information (including family medical history).

 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

No one said that. That is just the strawman you want to argue against. The sin is not the sinner. 

 

 

Completely dishonest, and you know it. Pride is literally a celebration of pride in one's state of being. He spouted off about celebrating pride. You're defending it. All while twisting yourself in knots trying to pretend that it's not offensive to tell people they should be ashamed of who they are. 

Again, you're free to have those backward beliefs, but spare us all the contortionist act. It was offensive and meant to be offensive. The fact that his beliefs may be deeply held doesn't absolve them of being offensive nor shield him from social consequence of such expression.

 

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Actually, he is protected:

Applicants, employees and former employees are protected from employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or transgender status), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history).

Applicants, employees and former employees are also protected from retaliation (punishment) for filing a charge or complaint of discrimination, participating in a discrimination investigation or lawsuit, or opposing discrimination (for example, threatening to file a charge or complaint of discrimination).

Employees have a right to: Not be harassed or discriminated against (treated less favorably) because of race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or transgender status), national origin, disability, age (40 or older) or genetic information (including family medical history).

No he's not. Again, you're being wildly dishonest. He was in no way, shape or form discriminated against because he was Christian. A large number of people working for the NBA are Christian, likely a significant majority. He faced consequences because he was conducting himself in a way that was incompatible with his employer's business goals--in a way that will alienate employees and customers. His priorities are at odds with theirs. Their interests have diverged. Irreconcilable differences. They split. That's what adults do.
 

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[Deluge]

20 hours ago, Hodad said:

Dumb thread, dumb take. 

Standards of behavior--especially public-facing behavior--exist at every company in the world. Employers can establish consequences for violation of those standards. Again, every business. People are allowed to believe whatever dumb shit they want, but if they start spouting off in ways that don't align with the corporate standards they can be penalized according to the employment agreement or even fired. 

Welcome to America. 

Companies need to stop being p*ssies and kick the woke psychopaths to the curb. 

If the dude wants to rant, let him rant. 

 

[gatomontes99]

43 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Completely dishonest, and you know it. Pride is literally a celebration of pride in one's state of being. He spouted off about celebrating pride. You're defending it. All while twisting yourself in knots trying to pretend that it's not offensive to tell people they should be ashamed of who they are. 

Well, you would know what I am saying better than me. 😒

Jesus teaches in John 8:1-11 that we cannot condemn those that sin and neither does he. The sin os the enemy, not the sinner. The act is the problem, not the person.

Celebrating people for their sins is just as wrong. We should do our best to live a life without sin (not possible, but try any way) therefore we should not celebrate and be proud of our sins. End of story. 

50 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No he's not. Again, you're being wildly dishonest. He was in no way, shape or form discriminated against because he was Christian. A large number of people working for the NBA are Christian, likely a significant majority. He faced consequences because he was conducting himself in a way that was incompatible with his employer's business goals--in a way that will alienate employees and customers. His priorities are at odds with theirs. Their interests have diverged. Irreconcilable differences. They split. That's what adults do.

 

Now it's business goal? It was for disrupting the team..then it was for discrimination and hatred. Now it is business goals? Whatever. 

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Well, you would know what I am saying better than me. 😒

Jesus teaches in John 8:1-11 that we cannot condemn those that sin and neither does he. The sin os the enemy, not the sinner. The act is the problem, not the person.

Celebrating people for their sins is just as wrong. We should do our best to live a life without sin (not possible, but try any way) therefore we should not celebrate and be proud of our sins. End of story. 

Again, why are you contorting yourself? You don't believe that LGTBQ+ people should be proud of who they are. They should be shamed and ashamed. We get it. The dumb and dishonest part is where you try to pretend that it's not divisive and offensive to tell someone that they should be ashamed of who they are. That's bullshit. 

Someone building a worldview around philosophy, rather than a 2000 year-old pamphlet would ask why anyone should be ashamed of a state of being that's not harmful, but not everyone's prepared to think.🤷‍♂️ 

 

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Now it's business goal? It was for disrupting the team..then it was for discrimination and hatred. Now it is business goals? Whatever. 

Team cohesion is a business goal. Performance is a business goal. Asses in the seats is a business goal. Ad revenue is a business goal. Etc. Etc. Etc. 

Nobody--zero people--are getting fired for what they believe. They can be fired for what they say and do. 

 

 

[gatomontes99]

On 4/1/2026 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

Again, why are you contorting yourself?

Are you asking me? No. I am not contorting myself. You seem to lack understanding of Jesus's teachings.

On 4/1/2026 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

You don't believe that LGTBQ+ people should be proud of who they are. They should be shamed and ashamed. We get it.

I don't think you do. You make it sound like this has something to do with just one sin. We should all be disappointed in ourselves for our sins. We should not, however, define ourselves by our sins or celebrate them.

On 4/1/2026 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

The dumb and dishonest part is where you try to pretend that it's not divisive and offensive to tell someone that they should be ashamed of who they are. That's bullshit. 

He did not say that. That was your strawman. 

 

On 4/1/2026 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

Someone building a worldview around philosophy, rather than a 2000 year-old pamphlet would ask why anyone should be ashamed of a state of being that's not harmful, but not everyone's prepared to think.🤷‍♂️ 

A pamphlet? Do you think that maybe everything you accused me of was really you just assuming that your traits are my traits? 

On 4/1/2026 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

Team cohesion is a business goal. Performance is a business goal. Asses in the seats is a business goal. Ad revenue is a business goal. Etc. Etc. Etc. 

None of this pertains to this video. The people that watched that video were most likely in agreement with him. He has, after all, been espousing Chriatianity for some time. The people that watched him likely wanted to hear what he had to say. They were more likely to watch him play and thus more likely to fill seats, watch games on TV and buy items advertised. So, he was not harming anything. In fact, you and I would not be discussing the NBA without him. He has increased their visibility. 

 

On 4/1/2026 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

Nobody--zero people--are getting fired for what they believe. They can be fired for what they say and do. 

Well, there is one.