What if... Confederacy Party of Canada

[Benz]

Before the election, everybody sticks to their beleif/propaganda/political agenda. Afterwards, people tend to loosen their positions and become open to new perspectives. So just for fun, I would like to see what are your thoughts on a utopic party I imagined. Utopic because right now, none of the 5 parties are near to offering something like that.

The Confederacy Party of Canada

Objective: Add a new administration type called state. We already have the territories, the provinces, now we would have the states. A Province could choose to become a state after a referendum won by 50%+1. A canadian state would be similar to a province but, it would have a much greater autonomy. More autonomy also means more responsibility and you depend more on your own. The most important part is, the state has a right to opt out of any federal program with full compensation. This idea is now new. That is what the group of 8 wanted in 1981 until the english provinces back stabbed Québec and give Trudeau everything he wanted.

Example: Let's say that only Manitoba chooses to become a state. Then the federal creates a program called Z that half of the provinces want. In this current canadian federation, whether you like it or no, you have to follow the federal's will. But with this new status, Manitoba would be able to say no to the Z program and get full compensation by getting its share of the budget for that program.

The state would also have other powers, such as choosing their own senators, judges and so on. Prime minister of Canada has no say anymore. The state can also interact with other sovereign countries without the approval of the federal. They can make deals, as long as they do not conflict with the ones set by Canada. A state also has a say on deals Canada can make with other countries, if it concerns a competency that belong to the state.

An important rule of the party, no one can push a right wing or left wing agenda. The purpose of the party is to make this happens. If you want to remove a woman right's to abort, or crashing money into the system thinking it sounds like an investment to you, you are not welcome. When you join, you put a pause to those agendas and you focus on that main project.

Obviously, once the project is done, the party will dissolve. You can all go back to your annoying right vs left mindsets.

Why the actual parties can't/won't propose something like that? Because it is against their nature. LPC and NPD are indefatigably centrists, all the power to Ottawa. The Bloc has no fate in english canada and focus only on Québec. Conservatives never respect its promises. Once they get the power, they like it as is and they abort all their reform projects.

If such party would take the power and put that system in place, I predict that Québec and Alberta would be the first ones to become canadian states. 

[CdnFox]

That is unbelievably complicated and Useless.

"We can fix our problems by adding unbelievable levels of complexity for no purpose" Yeah I don't think so

[TreeBeard]

You want a politician to run on creating states within Canada?  After what we just saw in this election?  Anything America related will be poison.  The Con MPs even had to shelve their MAGA hats!!

Even beyond that, the idea itself is a bad one.  Provinces need less autonomy, not more.  

Edited April 29 by TreeBeard

[Benz]

It is difficult to hold a smile when I see Danielle Smith suggesting that the federal should respect provincial competencies and mind its own busines. She says Québec would like that as well and other provinces too.

Oh I agree with her but, I feel the need to say that this is what Québec has been telling you since 1867. The federal government has too many powers and there should no be overlaps.

In 1981, the group of 8 was claiming the very same thing until the 7 others choosed to betray their own citizens and Québec.
The solution is easy. They just don't want to understand it. Let's repeat it one more million of times. 🤠

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, Benz said:

Let's repeat it one more million of times.

Repeat it all you want.  You’ll still be wrong.