Trump appointees cannot utter the words...

[godzilla]

That president Biden won the 2020 election. Trump has such a thin skin. He's mentally so weak.

Hear Bondi's answer when asked who won the 2020 presidential election

Bondi just claims to never have heard any of Trumps statements. And then after being informed of his statements... responds that they are not familiar.

i also particularly love how all nominees refuse to answer "hypothetical" when in fact they are answering questions regarding "if they are confirmed to the position" so every question is a hypothetical.

Edited January 15 by godzilla

[User]

I like this game. I have played it with others here and they have failed. Lets see how you do. 

Do you think Al Gore won the 2000 election against Bush or did Bush win fair and square?

Do you think Trump stole the election in 2016 from Clinton by working/colluding(whatever word you want to use here) with the Russians?

 

[godzilla]

Gore lost the election.

Clinton lost the election.

all "fair and square".

Now i have a question for you. Did any of Bidens nominees claim that Trump stole the election in 2016?

Edited January 15 by godzilla

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, godzilla said:

That president Biden won the 2020 election. Trump has such a thin skin. He's mentally so weak.

Hear Bondi's answer when asked who won the 2020 presidential election

Bondi just claims to never have heard any of Trumps statements. And then after being informed of his statements... responds that they are not familiar.

Trump can't be pleased that Bondi is ignoring what he says. LMAO

[User]

Just now, godzilla said:

Gore lost the election.

Clinton lost the election.

I want to note the witness did not answer the questions. 

Did Bush win fair and square?

Do you think Trump stole the election from Clinton by (insert your word here) with the Russians?

 

[godzilla]

Just now, User said:

I want to note the witness did not answer the questions. 

Did Bush win fair and square?

Do you think Trump stole the election from Clinton by (insert your word here) with the Russians?

 

i did edit my post to be clear in case you would fish for it.

fair and square. period.

[User]

9 minutes ago, godzilla said:

Now i have a question for you. Did any of Bidens nominees claim that Trump stole the election in 2016?

Good for you! A lot of folks on the left don't agree. Including on this forum. 

I have no idea about Biden's nominees, but I bet some of the Democrat Senators asking the questions believe some of that nonsense as many of them were pushing it after 2016. Clinton herself was still pushing it after the election. 

 

[godzilla]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Good for you! A lot of folks on the left don't agree. Including on this forum. 

I have no idea about Biden's nominees, but I bet some of the Democrat Senators asking the questions believe some of that nonsense as many of them were pushing it after 2016. Clinton herself was still pushing it after the election. 

 

its worth a whole thread... i'm not left.

i'm not going to accuse you specifically... but everyone should look at their own opinions and if one feels that if others don't agree with them then... they are "the other side"? thats a religion. religions are not rational.

and it doesn't matter what Clinton and what Democratic Senators believe. if others are guilty then that does not justify the same actions.

thats when things really go to HELL. when voters are OK with politicians breaking the law or whatever... because "the other side" does it.

Edited January 15 by godzilla

[User]

2 minutes ago, godzilla said:

its worth a whole thread... i'm not left.

Um... well, I have yet to see where you are on the right on any particular issue. 

3 minutes ago, godzilla said:

i'm not going to accuse you specifically... but everyone should look at their own opinions and if one feels that if others don't agree with them then... they are "the other side"? thats a religion. religions are not rational.

Political spectrums are not a religion, they are simply a measurement of where you fall and the fact that you tend to agree with and support the folks on one side of that is just an observation... not a religion. This is in fact rational and objective. 

I have only interacted with you a bit recently... so time will tell what else I observe. 

6 minutes ago, godzilla said:

and it doesn't matter what Clinton and what Democratic Senators believe. if others are guilty then that doesn't not justify the same actions.

Well, it certainly matters. No, two wrongs do not make a right. 

 

[godzilla]

22 hours ago, User said:

Political spectrums are not a religion, they are simply a measurement of where you fall and the fact that you tend to agree with and support the folks on one side of that is just an observation... not a religion. This is in fact rational and objective.

political ideologies are religions. think of the basic drivers. you have two politicians who want to be elected. their constituents just want them to consult with them on decisions and represent them when they make those decisions.

political parties were never part of what the founding fathers imagined. they are how democracy is controlled by a few. political parties built infrastructure to win elections on branding. the branding is how the politicians differentiate themselves.

the social sciences have provided over and over again that given a particular issue that a group of people easily come to a consensus irrespective of political ideology when political ideology is removed from the experiment and that those same people do not come to a consensus when political ideology is included in their deliberations.

the people don't get sold representation... they get sold a brand of power. and that brand of power is a fabricated belief system. and fabricated belief systems are the same as religions.

"political ideologies are like failed religions" - Jordan Peterson (before he started dressing like Don Cherry and found that one could make a lot of money pushing political ideologies)

[User]

1 hour ago, godzilla said:

political ideologies are religions. think of the basic drivers. you have two politicians who want to be elected. their constituents just want them to consult with them on decisions and represent them when they make those decisions.

political parties were never part of what the founding fathers imagined. they are how democracy is controlled by a few. political parties built infrastructure to win elections on branding. the branding is how the politicians differentiate themselves.

the social sciences have provided over and over again that given a particular issue that a group of people easily come to a consensus irrespective of political ideology when political ideology is removed from the experiment and that those same people do not come to a consensus when political ideology is included in their deliberations.

the people don't get sold representation... they get sold a brand of power. and that brand of power is a fabricated belief system. and fabricated belief systems are the same as religions.

"political ideologies are like failed religions" - Jordan Peterson (before he started dressing like Don Cherry and found that one could make a lot of money pushing political ideologies)

Well, first, I never said anything about "ideologies," nor are they religions. I very specifically was commenting on your political views and where you land on the political spectrum of those views for what I have seen so far. 

You then go on to conflate ideologies with political parties... having nothing to do with my point here. 

You then butcher a quote from Jordan Peterson that is also wildly out of any context. 

So, back to the point - You espouse political views on this forum which do in fact fall on a political spectrum, which so far has been on the left side of that spectrum. 

 

 

[godzilla]

i should really watch the whole Bondi show but... he tidbits are so painful.

she's a real trooper! she wants that job bad! to go out there and be so unrational for someone who probably is a rational individual must be so hard...

Bondi Says Trump DIDN'T Ask Election Official To Find Him Votes

my favorite quote:

"i was on the ground in Pennsylvania, and i saw many things there"

she just ends her thought there.

[godzilla]

6 hours ago, User said:

Well, first, I never said anything about "ideologies," nor are they religions. I very specifically was commenting on your political views and where you land on the political spectrum of those views for what I have seen so far. 

You then go on to conflate ideologies with political parties... having nothing to do with my point here. 

You then butcher a quote from Jordan Peterson that is also wildly out of any context. 

So, back to the point - You espouse political views on this forum which do in fact fall on a political spectrum, which so far has been on the left side of that spectrum. 

 

 

here's some reading for you:

Ideology

"Recent analysis tends to posit that ideology is a 'coherent system of ideas' that rely on a few basic assumptions about reality that may or may not have any factual basis."

you are indeed correct that an ideology is not a religion but as Peterson points out... shares that some of the beliefs are not factual. beliefs.

note the "few basic assumptions" part. the problem is that people suffer from the cognitive distortion of black and white thinking. when the natural world is grey... its grey everywhere. everything in the natural world is not a 1 or 0 but a probability distribution.

[User]

1 hour ago, godzilla said:

i should really watch the whole Bondi show but... he tidbits are so painful.

It would help if you actually just watched the hearing instead of these skewed clickbait clips. 

 

1 hour ago, godzilla said:

here's some reading for you:

Nah, I am good. 

[godzilla]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Nah, I am good. 

i know, i know... don't like book learnin!

[User]

53 minutes ago, godzilla said:

i know, i know... don't like book learnin!

Have no interest in irrelevant ramblings.