JerrySeinfeld Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 ABC NEWS EXEC: 'BUSH MAKES ME SICK'; E-MAIL REVEALED **Exclusive** A top producer at ABC NEWS declared "Bush makes me sick" in an email obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT. John Green, currently executive producer of the weekend edition of GOOD MORNING AMERICA, unloaded on the president in an ABC company email obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT. "If he uses the 'mixed messages' line one more time, I'm going to puke," Green complained. The blunt comments by Green, along with other emails obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT, further reveal the inner workings of the nation's news outlets. A friend of Green's at ABC says Green is mortified by the email. "John feels so badly about this email. He is a straight shooter and great producer who is always fair. That said, he deeply regrets the sentiment expressed in the email and the embarrassment it causes ABC News." [uPDATE: Green sent email to ABC staff: "By now some of you have seen the DRUDGE REPORT featuring a private email I sent to a colleague in 2004. I want all of you to know how much I regret the embarrassment this story causes ABC. It was an inappropriate thing to say and I'm deeply sorry.'] haha - we all knew it- now its proven. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 Personally I could care less if some media was left leaning. There is plenty of right-leaning TV too. I even enjoy it. I watch CBC to get a perspective different from my own on issues and learn something. Then I go read the National Post to cleanse myself. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Riverwind Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 haha - we all knew it- now its proven.Proven that people in the media have personal opinions? Nothing wrong with that. I would seriously doubt the competance of any journalist that spent time studing the issues and did not come to similar conclusions about Bush. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
geoffrey Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 haha - we all knew it- now its proven.Proven that people in the media have personal opinions? Nothing wrong with that. I would seriously doubt the competance of any journalist that spent time studing the issues and did not come to similar conclusions about Bush. I have the same thoughts about any jouranlist that claims to be unbiased. Everyone has biases, even those infalliable journalists. Sorry you just found out about this now Jerry. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 haha - we all knew it- now its proven.Proven that people in the media have personal opinions? Nothing wrong with that. I would seriously doubt the competance of any journalist that spent time studing the issues and did not come to similar conclusions about Bush. You guys completely missed the point. The point isn't that a top ABC news producer comprimised his objectivity by revealing his left leaning anti bush bias. It's that he felt comfortable enough assuming he could email these feelings to others in the organization and that they would feel the same way. If this bias is OK and expected, then why is the producer so apologetic? Quote
Riverwind Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 If this bias is OK and expected, then why is the producer so apologetic?Because people like you want to make a mountain out of a molehill. I doubt he really feels sorry. Everyone has bias but the good reporters are the ones that can look beyond their personal prejudices and just report the stories.You are living in a fantasy world if you think that it is possible for media people to not form their own opinions. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 You are living in a fantasy world if you think that it is possible for media people to not form their own opinions. haha! i haven't laughed so hard in awhile. thank you for that media people forming their own opinions? lol. great stuff. have you been to Iraq? Did you know most of the media hang around in the same hotel bar together discussing "the story"...the herd mentality - "herd" of it? THERE is your story, friend. a massive herd of sheep all telling the SAME lefty story and spilling it about on the internet via email. THAT's the point, since u missed it Quote
Riverwind Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 media people forming their own opinions? lol. great stuff. have you been to Iraq? Did you know most of the media hang around in the same hotel bar together discussing "the story"...the herd mentality - "herd" of it?If the same media were reporting the story in way you agreed with then I am sure you would say it was because the 'facts' supported that version of the story.The right wing is scared of the media now because right wing types don;t want to have to back up their decisions with facts. They expect everyone to mindlessly support the way in Iraq because the Presdent said so. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 media people forming their own opinions? lol. great stuff. have you been to Iraq? Did you know most of the media hang around in the same hotel bar together discussing "the story"...the herd mentality - "herd" of it?If the same media were reporting the story in way you agreed with then I am sure you would say it was because the 'facts' supported that version of the story. I'm sure you're sure. Quote
sharkman Posted March 25, 2006 Report Posted March 25, 2006 Yah Jerry I read about this story as well. I'm getting tired of hearing MSM types claiming they are objective in their reporting when they can barely contain their disdain for conservatives. This is why ratings are down year after year. Your average citizen is tired of it too and we are getting our news and info from other sources. Quote
gerryhatrick Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 haha - we all knew it- now its proven. One guy...one little cog in the wheel sends what he thinks is a private message about Bushs BS (which makes me sick quite often also, btw) and now the entire media establishment is proven to be "lefty"? JS, you need to start basing your topics and points in more logic and fact. This constant departure from reality is a little old. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Argus Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Personally I could care less if some media was left leaning. There is plenty of right-leaning TV too. Like? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 haha - we all knew it- now its proven. One guy...one little cog in the wheel sends what he thinks is a private message about Bushs BS (which makes me sick quite often also, btw) and now the entire media establishment is proven to be "lefty"? Actually, I think there was a media poll out last year which showed over 90% of the American media voted Democrat. I believe a similar poll taken in Canada among our national media would show about 60% voted Liberal, about 30% voted NDP, and most of the rest voted Green or BQ. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shakeyhands Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Personally I could care less if some media was left leaning. There is plenty of right-leaning TV too. Like? Is this a serious question? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Argus Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Personally I could care less if some media was left leaning. There is plenty of right-leaning TV too. Like? Is this a serious question? Well, the US has FOX TV. Aside from that I'm at a loss. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Riverwind Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Actually, I think there was a media poll out last year which showed over 90% of the American media voted Democrat. I believe a similar poll taken in Canada among our national media would show about 60% voted Liberal, about 30% voted NDP, and most of the rest voted Green or BQ.Interesting. However, there are two possible conclusions for such results:1) The media coverage is likely to be biased against the Republicans since the people working in the media don't support them. 2) Most people who take the time to investigate the issues end up supporting Democrats because the Democrat position on the issues makes the most sense when the propganda is discarded and the facts are considered. In other words, you cannot quote stats like that without considering cause and effect. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
lost&outofcontrol Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Actually, I think there was a media poll out last year which showed over 90% of the American media voted Democrat. I believe a similar poll taken in Canada among our national media would show about 60% voted Liberal, about 30% voted NDP, and most of the rest voted Green or BQ. I'd like to see that poll if you still have it. thx As for media bias, I think we should encourage this actually. Have journalist openly attack the left/right figure heads, show the two sides of stories and let the viewer decide where they fall and what channel they want to watch. All we get to see now is a very small spectrum of stories with "unbiased" journalist for fear of offending people and losing ratings. I say, let them offend us. We might of actually heard about the 300 000 strong rally in Chicago last week or the liberal fraud earlier or that British commandos were caught with a car filled with explosives in Iraq. These are all stories that were barely mentioned in the news. Quote
BubberMiley Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Actually, I think there was a media poll out last year which showed over 90% of the American media voted Democrat. I believe a similar poll taken in Canada among our national media would show about 60% voted Liberal, about 30% voted NDP, and most of the rest voted Green or BQ. I think a similar poll in Canada would show about 90% voted for the Marijuana Party but I guess both of us pulled our poll results from our ass, so they have about the same credence. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
gerryhatrick Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Actually, I think there was a media poll out last year which showed over 90% of the American media voted Democrat. I believe a similar poll taken in Canada among our national media would show about 60% voted Liberal, about 30% voted NDP, and most of the rest voted Green or BQ. Even if your numbers were accurate, what is the point? All my talk radio and print media is right-of-center. Media control and editorial influence is largely right of center. There are bleeding heart journalists in media, just as there are war hawk neo-cons. BUT, voting Liberal or Conservative or NDP or Bloc doesn't mean that will influence how you do your job. Your suggestion that a persons voting choice somehow translates into news reporting bias is baseless. Journalism is a job and news reporting is most often a neutral translation of the facts. It's when folks like yourself don't like the facts that you point at the messenger. I think it's pathetic to blame the media for the news....like a criminal blaming his mother for his choices. The Conservative right keeps up a steady drone on the matter, but I've come to the realization that it's pure cynicism. A crass dishonesty for political advantage. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
GostHacked Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Actually, I think there was a media poll out last year which showed over 90% of the American media voted Democrat. I believe a similar poll taken in Canada among our national media would show about 60% voted Liberal, about 30% voted NDP, and most of the rest voted Green or BQ. I'd like to see that poll if you still have it. thx As for media bias, I think we should encourage this actually. Have journalist openly attack the left/right figure heads, show the two sides of stories and let the viewer decide where they fall and what channel they want to watch. All we get to see now is a very small spectrum of stories with "unbiased" journalist for fear of offending people and losing ratings. I say, let them offend us. We might of actually heard about the 300 000 strong rally in Chicago last week or the liberal fraud earlier or that British commandos were caught with a car filled with explosives in Iraq. These are all stories that were barely mentioned in the news. And those stories that are barely mention are the more important ones to watch out for. I have seen some importand information get swept under the rug or a little blurb was done about it, and no follow up. CNN.com is great for this. I read an importand article (well I think it is important) then it gets thrown into the back links. Quote
lost&outofcontrol Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 And those stories that are barely mention are the more important ones to watch out for. I have seen some importand information get swept under the rug or a little blurb was done about it, and no follow up. CNN.com is great for this. I read an importand article (well I think it is important) then it gets thrown into the back links. Exactly! Let people decide what they want to hear. A journalist telling me he's unbiased is full of it. It's human nature whether we do it consciously or subconsciously. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Turn it off if you don't like it. You have that freedom in this country. Media bias is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard in a free country. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
GostHacked Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Turn it off if you don't like it. You have that freedom in this country.Media bias is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard in a free country. Well the truth is, media IS biased. Let's say Incident Q took place. You can find Media Oultet 1 saying a different story from Media Outlet A, Or you can find both of them using Media Outlet C's information. There is bias in the news. This I can and do agree with Monty Burns. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Turn it off if you don't like it. You have that freedom in this country. Media bias is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard in a free country. Well the truth is, media IS biased. Let's say Incident Q took place. You can find Media Oultet 1 saying a different story from Media Outlet A, Or you can find both of them using Media Outlet C's information. There is bias in the news. This I can and do agree with Monty Burns. Oh I'm not arguing that the media isn't bias. I'm arguging you don't have to watch it if you don't like it. There is news for everyone in this country. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
GostHacked Posted March 27, 2006 Report Posted March 27, 2006 Turn it off if you don't like it. You have that freedom in this country. Media bias is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard in a free country. Well the truth is, media IS biased. Let's say Incident Q took place. You can find Media Oultet 1 saying a different story from Media Outlet A, Or you can find both of them using Media Outlet C's information. There is bias in the news. This I can and do agree with Monty Burns. Oh I'm not arguing that the media isn't bias. I'm arguging you don't have to watch it if you don't like it. There is news for everyone in this country. When the news outlets are biased, you have to be smarter and cut through all the shit. And the way things get worded confuse the issue. I have to read 3 to 4 sites to get the big picture of what is going on, for every media outlet is either saying the EXACT same thing, or changing some words here and there to show their biasness (if that is a word hehe) Also you say media bias is rediculous in a free country and yet say that you agree their is bias. This is a contradiction. Quote
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