Canuck E Stan Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 Looks like Bob Rae is seriously considering the Liberal Leadership.He'll tell all in a couple of days.Some think he's going to run and is setting himself up to do so. Will the Ontario voters who remember his disasterous NDP premiership from 1990-1995 forgive him and forget, or will Ontario say No to Bob Rae and his Federal Leadership bid. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
cybercoma Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 I hope he wins. This way Ontario will boot out the Liberals and give the Conservatives a majority. Imagine....national Rae Days. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 I hope he wins. This way Ontario will boot out the Liberals and give the Conservatives a majority.Imagine....national Rae Days. I could use one this week? The candidate list just keeps getting better for the CPC. The scary thing with Rae though is he'd be sure to strike an coalition with the NDP. Having the left-wing liberals and the NDP running the country is about the scariest thought I can imagine. However, if that occured, I don't doubt you'd see a divide and the fiscally conservative minded liberals (which are probably most of the party considering their business connections), will all cross over to the right. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Montgomery Burns Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 Having the left-wing liberals and the NDP running the country is about the scariest thought I can imagine. No doubt. *shudders* Quote "Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005. "Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.
Josh Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 I'm all for it- Rae as leader means a CPC Majority in the next election! Quote
margrace Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 I'm all for it- Rae as leader means a CPC Majority in the next election! Rae days was quoted on here, the reason he lost the election was that he dared to say that people should consider the good of Ontario and not claim more, more, more. It that is NDP policy I have never read it. Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. Quote
Renegade Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. The moratorium on cod fishing in 1992 also "destroyed whole communities" yet it was common sense. Yes sometimes doing the right thing causes upheaval, yet it should be done because it is the right thing to do. Quote “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson
wellandboy Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 I'm all for it- Rae as leader means a CPC Majority in the next election! Rae days was quoted on here, the reason he lost the election was that he dared to say that people should consider the good of Ontario and not claim more, more, more. It that is NDP policy I have never read it. Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. I remember the Common Sense Revolution but in particular I remember Jean Chretien and Paul Martin drastically slashing transfers to the provinces. This severely hamstrung the provinces ability to provide the services to which we had become accustomed. Quote
Biblio Bibuli Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 Looks like Bob Rae is seriously considering the Liberal Leadership. If Bob isn't doing this just to dart over to Michael's side when the time is right, my name is Biblio Bibuli. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Hicksey Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 I'm all for it- Rae as leader means a CPC Majority in the next election! Rae days was quoted on here, the reason he lost the election was that he dared to say that people should consider the good of Ontario and not claim more, more, more. It that is NDP policy I have never read it. Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. I remember the Common Sense Revolution but in particular I remember Jean Chretien and Paul Martin drastically slashing transfers to the provinces. This severely hamstrung the provinces ability to provide the services to which we had become accustomed. Yeah, it is a little hard to run balanced budgets and fund municipalities correctly when the Liberals take 40% of your health care and infrastructure transfers out from underneath you. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
Bryan Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 This is totally the best news I've heard in a long time. Conservatives everywhere are rejoicing at the very idea! Quote
scribblet Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Could this be the start of a 'unite the left' movement, and would it it drive some of the small c liberals over to the CPC....food for thought. Bob Rae was always NDP, unfortunately for him, he was too smart for the NDP, he recognized the fact that you cannot spend what you don't have. He knew there was no money and did what he thought was a fair way to cut expenses... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
geoffrey Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Could this be the start of a 'unite the left' movement, and would it it drive some of the small c liberals over to the CPC....food for thought.Bob Rae was always NDP, unfortunately for him, he was too smart for the NDP, he recognized the fact that you cannot spend what you don't have. He knew there was no money and did what he thought was a fair way to cut expenses... Depends on who wins. This will definitely be a leadership that determines the future of the party. Centrist candidates in Ignatieff and Belinda/Brison, or the socialist Rae? Much of the party will probably split if Rae was to be elected, so we'll have to see if that merger is on the agenda. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Briteyes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. The common sense revolution was led by Mike Harris it was his common sense revolution that slashed health care, welfare and education not Bob Rae. Quote
scribblet Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. The common sense revolution was led by Mike Harris it was his common sense revolution that slashed health care, welfare and education not Bob Rae. Actually it was the CSR that brought some common sense to budgeting as it was the Liberals who slashed the transfer payments, in case you forgot. Bob Rae had the same problem and had allready cut nursing staff and hospital beds, and set up a committee to look into additional hospital cuts. Provinces can't continue to run the same staffing etc. if the feds yank away their payments. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Shady Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Most of you are absolutely right. Bob Rae as Liberal Leader equals Conservative majority, and I love it! This is tantamount to political suicide. I'll be praying it happens. Yeah, it is a little hard to run balanced budgets and fund municipalities correctly when the Liberals take 40% of your health care and infrastructure transfers out from underneath youCorrect. Not only that, add to the problem, the previous Government's (Rae's) large tax increase, as well as increasing spending, while at the same time ballooning the provincial deficit and provincial debt.Bob Rae was always NDP, unfortunately for him, he was too smart for the NDP, he recognized the fact that you cannot spend what you don't have. He knew there was no money and did what he thought was a fair way to cut expenses...You're kidding right? Spend what you don't have, and Bob Rae, never ever belong in the same sentence or paragraph. Just look at what he did to the provincial deficit and provincial debt during the short time he was in office. It really is staggering. Quote
mcqueen625 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Rae never was NDP and never will be, Ontario would do well to remember the "Common Sense Revolution" where the destroying of whole communities was common sense. The common sense revolution was led by Mike Harris it was his common sense revolution that slashed health care, welfare and education not Bob Rae. Actually it was the CSR that brought some common sense to budgeting as it was the Liberals who slashed the transfer payments, in case you forgot. Bob Rae had the same problem and had allready cut nursing staff and hospital beds, and set up a committee to look into additional hospital cuts. Provinces can't continue to run the same staffing etc. if the feds yank away their payments. THe problem with the NDP is that they do not seem to believe in allowing the PEOPLE to decide for ourselves where to spend our money. Under the NDP, taxes would increase to pay for all of the social programs the NDP has dreamed up, while I and most other Canadian's believe that the size of government should be drastically reduced, and the savings from those cuts should be returned to the people in the form of tax decreases. Quote
Spike22 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Good lord who else is going to come out of the closet and run for this party, every rejected, fruit, freak and other goof is putting their name forward for this job. Is it that bad in Liberal Land? PS I see Scotty Brison is taking French language training. Does he speak it with a lisp? Quote
Josh Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Ok, now I have a question: What were Rae days? I was two when Rae came to power, and seven when he left, so needless to say, I haven't a clue. Perhaps some of the veterans could help me out? Quote
geoffrey Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Rae Days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rae_Days Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Josh Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Rae Days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rae_Days Wow... Way to go Bob! Just makes me dispise the Left even more... Quote
Hicksey Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 I haven't forgotten. Won't any time soon. If nothing else it will certainly make the decision for centrist Ontarian Liberals a lot more interesting. I think they'll either flock to him in numbers or away from him in numbers. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
geoffrey Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 If a socialist gets elected as PM, I'm moving south. I'd like to have solid job prospect for the future. Any person that thinks Canada doesn't give enough internally, is someone I fear as having the ability to destroy the fiscal prudence created by Martin, and crush our entire economy just like that. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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