fixer1 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Posted February 22, 2006 It has occured to me that many here are very upset in this country about child care. I know that when I was a young parent it was hard to find good cild care at a reasonable price. Many parents now look at this problem to be also one of early education etc. I see many incentives for employers to start and have daycare for their employees right at the working offices. It seems to me that many places are doing this which means more daycare spaces are coming available every day. Back in my day part of having children was planning to have either one parent stay home and rasie them, or find other arrangements. Quite often family could be found to look after the children, and grandparents loved the chance to help. Now I know times have changed, but have we lost the family unit that much, and also, are there not still many people who babysit that are not registered daycare facilities? It would seem to me that planning to have children, should at least have all these things taken into account. It seems now that employers are being more and more competitive in their search for employees and office daycare, is one way many will find to get the employees they want to stay with the company. The tax incentives to companies also should be a large factor as well. So, as much as it would be nice to have daycare that would cost less then a minimum wage employee would make, would be nice. But at what cost to the rest of the population. I am starting to see just how big the numbers are for this plan, and it is starting to look to me like this will be a very large perk to people with young children. If we are to subsidize daycare costs that are $120.00 per week per child to reduce it to $35 per week per child ( as per Quebecs $7.00 per day), that is like giving a family with two small children $660.00 per month. It would be cheaper to give them all a free economy car and pay for their gas. Just why do the rest of Canadians have to give you that money when it is really your responsibility to pay for your own children. It would be better to start them in school at age 4, for a full day and half day at age 3. But is that not just passing off the raising of your child to the school system. Do the parents today really believe that this would be good? Quote
Wilber Posted February 22, 2006 Report Posted February 22, 2006 It's actually a provincial jurisdiction. Trouble is the Feds take in 70% of the tax dollars and they love to use that to meddle in provincial affairs because they have a lousy record of looking after their own responsibilities such as fisheries and defense. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
BubberMiley Posted February 22, 2006 Report Posted February 22, 2006 This topic has been beaten to death, most notably in "All Opponents of $1,200 per child under 6..., Where do you think Fed. Gov't. gets it's $?." Check it out. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Spike22 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 If it was up to me no one would get a red cent. Keep em barefoot and prego is my rule - turn back the clock to when we raised kids in the 50's and 60's. Unfortunately women can read, write and vote now and want the same rights as us working men. Oh no here comes the missus with a frying pan... BONG!!!!! Hi there, Spike22 might be away for a while. Sincerely, Spikette21 Quote
August1991 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 It's actually a provincial jurisdiction. Trouble is the Feds take in 70% of the tax dollars and they love to use that to meddle in provincial affairs because they have a lousy record of looking after their own responsibilities such as fisheries and defense.IMV, excellent answer.The situation in one part of North America is not the same as in another part of North America. PEI is not the same as Alberta, or Alabama. I cannot imagine a more personal matter than taking care of a child - even prayers are less personal than a parent's thoughts about a child. Child care policies should be provincial, not federal. ---- Canada works best when Canadians are not put in a situation where they must choose between their province and the country. Quote
Hicksey Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 It's actually a provincial jurisdiction. Trouble is the Feds take in 70% of the tax dollars and they love to use that to meddle in provincial affairs because they have a lousy record of looking after their own responsibilities such as fisheries and defense.IMV, excellent answer.The situation in one part of North America is not the same as in another part of North America. PEI is not the same as Alberta, or Alabama. I cannot imagine a more personal matter than taking care of a child - even prayers are less personal than a parent's thoughts about a child. Child care policies should be provincial, not federal. ---- Canada works best when Canadians are not put in a situation where they must choose between their province and the country. Which is why I champion Harper's plan to get rid of the GST and allow the provinces to add it to their provincial taxes. Leave each level of government to its own devices as it pertains to funding for and providing services deemed to be provincial, and they will become more accountable because they will no longer be able to pass the blame for their screw-ups up or down the ladder. I still think that less taxes and more money in our pockets to take care of these issues ourselves is the answer. IMHO Government intervention best comes as intelligent regulation rather than providing services. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
Biblio Bibuli Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Child care policies should be provincial, not federal. Quebec gets much more from the federal government for child care than the other provinces so I doubt they'd agree. Did you know that in Quebec one gets a whopping $8000 cheque with the arrival of a third child? I wonder how much Harper kicks in for that? Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Spike22 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Child care policies should be provincial, not federal. Quebec gets much more from the federal government for child care than the other provinces so I doubt they'd agree. Did you know that in Quebec one gets a whopping $8000 cheque with the arrival of a third child? I wonder how much Harper kicks in for that? More BS we have to contend with in this country to keep the GORFs happy. We are actually paying them to reproduce - sad but incredible. Quote
tml12 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Child care policies should be provincial, not federal. Quebec gets much more from the federal government for child care than the other provinces so I doubt they'd agree. Did you know that in Quebec one gets a whopping $8000 cheque with the arrival of a third child? I wonder how much Harper kicks in for that? There's no Quebec favouratism in Ottawa...what are you talking about??? Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Spike22 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 It's actually a provincial jurisdiction. Trouble is the Feds take in 70% of the tax dollars and they love to use that to meddle in provincial affairs because they have a lousy record of looking after their own responsibilities such as fisheries and defense. IMV, excellent answer.The situation in one part of North America is not the same as in another part of North America. PEI is not the same as Alberta, or Alabama. I cannot imagine a more personal matter than taking care of a child - even prayers are less personal than a parent's thoughts about a child. Child care policies should be provincial, not federal. ---- It works best when policies allow the parents do the parenting not the provinces or the government. We are so use to big brother government doing everything for us [from cradle to grave] we forget our personal obligations.!!!!!! Quote
Melanie_ Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 This topic has been beaten to death, most notably in "All Opponents of $1,200 per child under 6..., Where do you think Fed. Gov't. gets it's $?." Check it out. I agree, Bubber. Fixer, there have been several good threads on the topic, with well reasoned debate from both sides, and they are still active. Join in there. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Biblio Bibuli Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 More BS we have to contend with in this country to keep the GORFs happy. What's GORF? Another name for PEPSI? Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Spike22 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 Why do we have to depend on the federal government for child care? Because we have and continue to slide towards a totalitarian socialist leaning country. Quote
Spike22 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 More BS we have to contend with in this country to keep the GORFs happy. What's GORF? Another name for PEPSI? Write GORF on a piece of paper. Then look at it in a mirror Quote
Wilber Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 Guess we don't. Just heard on the radio that Harper is caning present agreements as of next March. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Spike22 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 Guess we don't. Just heard on the radio that Harper is caning present agreements as of next March. Terrific! Quote
Biblio Bibuli Posted February 25, 2006 Report Posted February 25, 2006 More BS we have to contend with in this country to keep the GORFs happy. What's GORF? Another name for PEPSI? Write GORF on a piece of paper. Then look at it in a mirror OAML! UOY KNAHT! Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
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