Spectacular f-up is not "a landslide"!

[Moonbox]

22 hours ago, myata said:

A real choice is that that can be shown in the reality. Everything else is either a useless babble or a lie.

This is starting to sound like useless babble.  There's a real choice when you vote, that aggregates with everyone else's real choices.  Whether the choice brings the change you want depends on everyone else's choices, and the effectiveness and convictions of the people empowered by the voters. 

One of the problems we've had lately is the centralization of power in the PM's office.  The Prime Minister's actual power over MPs is what's illusory.  Most of them have been cowed into silence and acting as rubber stamps for the PMO.  

I always admired Michael Chong.  If I lived 15km north he'd be my MP.  He stands up for what he believes and even stood up to Harper (losing his cabinet position as a result).  The small town folk who have kept him in office for the last 20 years respect that.  Most MPs do nothing but nod their heads.  

[myata]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

This is starting to sound like useless babble.  There's a real choice when you vote, that aggregates with everyone else's real choices.  Whether the choice brings the change you want depends on everyone else's choices, and the effectiveness and convictions of the people empowered by the voters. 

Why do you folks want to look funny? What is more important, no scratch it, the only sense and the meaning of the process: the ritual or the outcome?

If the former, then Putin and Xi have it, some voting ritual; Un could have it too if only bothered.

And if it is about the latter, you have it right before your eyes: two central committees have been ruling the country, in turns, since 1860 or something like that. No matter how you "voted" any other way was, would and can be reflected in the outcome.

How can you beat your own eyes, or binary logic? Beats me.

[myata]

Imagine: you have an agenda that you think is important to the people and addresses their needs. You have a group of close-minded peers, a team that will work together to implement them. You come to the people and tell them: here's what we're going to do if you trust us; see what we have; see who's in the team; this is the plan and the course of action. Ask us any questions and we will give honest, meaningful answers. Now let's see how many votes we can muster. The agenda and team with the most votes have the highest trust of the people and will have the right to implement it.

This is not what we have here, and quite the opposite of. The duopoly and it always works together to keep itself in place, sets strange, illogical conditions that work only to keep it in its place.

The agenda and the team isn't enough. First, you have to register XYZ so called "representatives" (that they aren't, quite obviously: a trick) and pay a lot for it: for a useless, meaningless routine. So, one barrier. The next, in these chunks that we have drawn between us, you have to get more votes than either of us or you're screwed: your votes disappear, just flushed down to waste like in some putinland. How is it fair? It was acceptable to the folks in the 18th and 19th century because it was marginally better than the absolute rule or dictatorship. Two centuries on, it's the lowest, minimal level of democracy if it can still qualify as such.

How is "vote for us or it's like you don't exist" a fair and equal choice? It is not. The reality matters and the only thing that matters over and all any pretty words and tales.

Edited June 11, 2024 by myata

[myata]

Effectively these two barriers: that have close to zero meaning in the today's reality, prevent the possibility of any other agenda or group/party coming to power with near-perfect success. Not a single chance, in going on two centuries. Possible only theoretically and then, a wi--ide stretch. The system does what it was intended and designed for keep the others away from the public trough. Effective and efficient management of public matters and assets, maybe was never a priority.

Edited June 11, 2024 by myata