Canuck Monk Posted January 28, 2006 Report Posted January 28, 2006 Well Global's reporting that Hedy is thinking about running for the federal Liberal leadership. What do you think? I think Frank McKenna would crush her but if he pulled off some miracle and actually won the leadership, hey, I think that's the best news the Tories could get. Stephen Harper would be running against a controversial woman who said they were burning crosses in Prince George. Quote
Wilber Posted January 28, 2006 Report Posted January 28, 2006 If you are a Tory, Hedy winning the leadership would be a gift from Heaven. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
shoop Posted January 28, 2006 Report Posted January 28, 2006 This is the mindset Liberals *have* to change. A leadership convention shouldn't be about *crushing* anybody. The Liberals really need to find their ideological raison d'etre. There should be a full and vigorous debate. With a hard, but fairly fought, campaign. Anoininting a leader this early gets you another PM Dithers. No policy vision, simply offering a mish mash of policies that doesn't *really* tell the voters where you want to take the country. Honestly, a Frank McKenna coronation is probably the best thing that could happen to the CPC. I think Frank McKenna would crush her but if he pulled off some miracle and actually won the leadership, hey, I think that's the best news the Tories could get. Quote
justcrowing Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals - * She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. Quote
mar Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals -* She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. So you're equating being non-caucasian and a woman with campaign irrelgularities? Just another stigma that would prevent her from getting votes? Whether or not she seeks it she hasn't got a hope in hell of getting it but there are some voters out there who wouldn't consider your first two criteria automatically disqualify anyone. What would the next election slogan be? Vote for Harper. He's not a ______ _______ (supply your own racial and gender based slurs, two words maximum). Quote
justcrowing Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals - * She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. So you're equating being non-caucasian and a woman with campaign irrelgularities? Just another stigma that would prevent her from getting votes? Whether or not she seeks it she hasn't got a hope in hell of getting it but there are some voters out there who wouldn't consider your first two criteria automatically disqualify anyone. What would the next election slogan be? Vote for Harper. He's not a ______ _______ (supply your own racial and gender based slurs, two words maximum). Is that the best you can do is jump on the stigma bandwagon? Fry would be elected on the basis of politcal correctness. What the heck, why not - she is excellent and would most certainly improve race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George " & I believe she added Kamloops too, that crosses are being burned on lawns. But there was a piece in a BC Newspaper at that time where Fry was seen with a group of women burning a cross at the steps of a Catholic Church. That kinda sounds to me like she was stirring up hate. I wish I could remember the ugly comments Fry made a fews years back at a Status of Women's conference and calls for her resignation were made. And that, has nothing to do with race or gender but mouth. Quote
Concerned Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals - * She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. So you're equating being non-caucasian and a woman with campaign irrelgularities? Just another stigma that would prevent her from getting votes? Whether or not she seeks it she hasn't got a hope in hell of getting it but there are some voters out there who wouldn't consider your first two criteria automatically disqualify anyone. What would the next election slogan be? Vote for Harper. He's not a ______ _______ (supply your own racial and gender based slurs, two words maximum). Is that the best you can do is jump on the stigma bandwagon? Fry would be elected on the basis of politcal correctness. What the heck, why not - she is excellent and would most certainly improve race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George " & I believe she added Kamloops too, that crosses are being burned on lawns. But there was a piece in a BC Newspaper at that time where Fry was seen with a group of women burning a cross at the steps of a Catholic Church. That kinda sounds to me like she was stirring up hate. I wish I could remember the ugly comments Fry made a fews years back at a Status of Women's conference and calls for her resignation were made. And that, has nothing to do with race or gender but mouth. Racism and Sexism abound amongst the conservative supporters on this website. No surprise there eh??? Quote If everybody agrees with what you have to say, you really aren't saying anything, are you ?
Boru Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals - * She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. So you're equating being non-caucasian and a woman with campaign irrelgularities? Just another stigma that would prevent her from getting votes? Whether or not she seeks it she hasn't got a hope in hell of getting it but there are some voters out there who wouldn't consider your first two criteria automatically disqualify anyone. What would the next election slogan be? Vote for Harper. He's not a ______ _______ (supply your own racial and gender based slurs, two words maximum). Is that the best you can do is jump on the stigma bandwagon? Fry would be elected on the basis of politcal correctness. What the heck, why not - she is excellent and would most certainly improve race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George " & I believe she added Kamloops too, that crosses are being burned on lawns. But there was a piece in a BC Newspaper at that time where Fry was seen with a group of women burning a cross at the steps of a Catholic Church. That kinda sounds to me like she was stirring up hate. I wish I could remember the ugly comments Fry made a fews years back at a Status of Women's conference and calls for her resignation were made. And that, has nothing to do with race or gender but mouth. Racism and Sexism abound amongst the conservative supporters on this website. No surprise there eh??? Not really, no. Quote
scribblet Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals - * She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. So you're equating being non-caucasian and a woman with campaign irrelgularities? Just another stigma that would prevent her from getting votes? Whether or not she seeks it she hasn't got a hope in hell of getting it but there are some voters out there who wouldn't consider your first two criteria automatically disqualify anyone. What would the next election slogan be? Vote for Harper. He's not a ______ _______ (supply your own racial and gender based slurs, two words maximum). Good grief, how did you come up with that one, I thought she was saying she'd have a better chance of winning in these politically correct times, because she is a woman and visible minority. Strange how comments can be twisted to suit a purpose. The problem with discussion anywhere is that the fear of being called names e.g. racist, homophobic etc. is crippling the ability to filter truth from falsehood, and stiffling any real discussion of some issues. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Boru Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Why I think Hedy Fry would make a good leader for the Liberals - * She is not white. * She is a woman. * She's better known for contributing to the improvement of race relations by declaring in Parliament that in Prince George "crosses are being burned on lawns * She supports the feminists. [status of women]. Anyone remember her controversial remarks? * She was also the doctor who while being a Liberal MP bragged about issuing a false drug prescription for someone, knowing it was going to someone else. She was reprimanded by the B.C. College of Physicians and Surgeons for this unethical conduct. The Liberals kept her on. *Fry's supporters backdated membership forms illegally allowing Fry to continue to sign up members after nominations officially closed. Fry denies it, but the Liberal party has declined to show its own membership forms to compare if the date stamp looks like the real thing. So you're equating being non-caucasian and a woman with campaign irrelgularities? Just another stigma that would prevent her from getting votes? Whether or not she seeks it she hasn't got a hope in hell of getting it but there are some voters out there who wouldn't consider your first two criteria automatically disqualify anyone. What would the next election slogan be? Vote for Harper. He's not a ______ _______ (supply your own racial and gender based slurs, two words maximum). Good grief, how did you come up with that one, I thought she was saying she'd have a better chance of winning in these politically correct times, because she is a woman and visible minority. Strange how comments can be twisted to suit a purpose. The problem with discussion anywhere is that the fear of being called names e.g. racist, homophobic etc. is crippling the ability to filter truth from falsehood, and stiffling any real discussion of some issues. You missed the boat on that one. Or intentionally ignored the purpose of her post..strange how comments can be twisted to suit a purpose isn't it scirblett? She was saying Hedy would be a good Liberal leader because of the gender and ethnicity. In the same breath, she was outlining why Hedy is corrupt. That was obviously a sarcastic post outlining her faults, and there is no distinguishing one fault from the other. There was no intent for discussion here, just a general attack on Hedy, and the poster quite obviously included race and gender in that list. Quote
justcrowing Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 C'mon baby, let's do the Liberal twist... tra, la, la, la!! * Topic is Hedy Fry for Liberal Leader... There was no attack only facts, only facts!! * Scribblet hit the nail on the head ... Fry stands a good chance of winning based on policitcal correctness and not on her outstanding "ethics". Those ethics were well publicized at the time. * She could win on her lack of merits, and her scandals which would be embraced as okay by Liberals. Liberal corruption keeps getting them elected. * Are you saying because she is a woman and of a different race, she should not be criticized in the same way any other "wannabe" politician is criticized? Well, if she can't take the heat, then she should get out of the kitchen. * If I criticized Stronach, what excuse would you use since you cannot say it is "racist" but of course, you could use the gender excuse, right?. * Liberals have criticized Grewal so does that make the critics racist and gender biased? According to respondents here, then we could accuse the opposition of being racist and gender biased. Ya'all sound pretty silly with the racist and gender argument. Ya failed the test!!! Quote
Wilber Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Lay off Hedy guys. She would make a perfect leader for the Liberals. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
justcrowing Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Lay off Hedy guys. She would make a perfect leader for the Liberals. Careful, you might be labelled racist and gender biased. She would make a perfectly wonderful Liberal Leader. Go for it Hedy. Quote
Boru Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Lay off Hedy guys. She would make a perfect leader for the Liberals. Careful, you might be labelled racist and gender biased. She would make a perfectly wonderful Liberal Leader. Go for it Hedy. ANd you've successully gotten yourself labelled as halfwit. Quote
justcrowing Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Lay off Hedy guys. She would make a perfect leader for the Liberals. Careful, you might be labelled racist and gender biased. She would make a perfectly wonderful Liberal Leader. Go for it Hedy. ANd you've successully gotten yourself labelled as halfwit. Is that the best you can do is attack someone personally? Quote
Boru Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Lay off Hedy guys. She would make a perfect leader for the Liberals. Careful, you might be labelled racist and gender biased. She would make a perfectly wonderful Liberal Leader. Go for it Hedy. ANd you've successully gotten yourself labelled as halfwit. Is that the best you can do is attack someone personally? Ya'all sound pretty silly with the racist and gender argument. Ya failed the test!!! What do you call that? I can't help atttacking you, you're a magnet for it. Quote
justcrowing Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Lay off Hedy guys. She would make a perfect leader for the Liberals. Careful, you might be labelled racist and gender biased. She would make a perfectly wonderful Liberal Leader. Go for it Hedy. ANd you've successully gotten yourself labelled as halfwit. Is that the best you can do is attack someone personally? Ya'all sound pretty silly with the racist and gender argument. Ya failed the test!!! What do you call that? I can't help atttacking you, you're a magnet for it. Why not try disproving rather than attacking ... the racist argument is pretty stupid. Hedy would make a great Liberal Leader - now surely you must agree. Quote
Argus Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 Why not try disproving rather than attacking ... the racist argument is pretty stupid. Hedy would make a great Liberal Leader - now surely you must agree. Oh, i certainly do. I'd love to see her as Liberal leader. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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