Whatever Has Become Of The C.B.C.?

[Eddy]

What has happened to "Canada's" national broadcaster...?

I'm not talking about C.B.C. television here -- with very few exceptions, that part of it was absorbed by the blob that is American TV ages ago. No, I'm referring to C.B.C. radio. That was my personal radio outlet of choice for years and years whilst sequestered commuting in my car: it was commercial-free, and in all talk format, too, on such a wide range of topics that tuning it in was like taking an enjoyable walk down a long smorgasbord table filled with delicious things to eat.

Suddenly though, a change started to creep into its daily fare. Mind you now, I have no bias or prejudice against Canada's Indigenous People whatsoever...but as the C.B.C.'s shows slowly but surely migrated specifically to that portion of our population & that portion alone -- I mean really now, Indigenous hip-hop music...? Indigenous rap...? Indigenous writing...? Tales from "the reservation"...? Indigenous stand-up comedians...? Indigenous awards presentations...? -- what is an ordinary mainstream everyday tax-paying (and thus C.B.C. supporting) Canadian supposed to make of it?

That is specialized programming effectively hijacking sizable chunks of air time for benefit of only 5% of the Canadian population: what relevance to the other 95% of Canadians is there in that, & in turn, why in the world should I be told that I should ruefully mourn the disappearance of the C.B.C. from our media landscape (the absence of commercials notwithstanding)...?

[Michael Hardner]

Have you listened to any of it ?  Is it any good ?

[Eddy]

"...Have you listened to any of it ?  Is it any good...?"

Yes, of course I have. "As It Happens" & "Quirks & Quarks" are especially good features -- among others.

And you...?

[Michael Hardner]

39 minutes ago, Eddy said:

"...Have you listened to any of it ?  Is it any good...?"

Yes, of course I have. "As It Happens" & "Quirks & Quarks" are especially good features -- among others.

And you...?

I listen to Metro Morning, Toronto, the current, Day 6, The House and a few others but not faithfully.

But I was asking about the Indigenous programming that you were commenting on.

[Eddy]

Quote

"...But I was asking about the Indigenous programming that you were commenting on..."

Sorry for my misinterpretation of your comment, Michael.

I think that I may caught a listen to some of that -- but only ever so very briefly -- years ago. I have no interest in such things, as I am the child of immigrant post-WW2 parents from Poland, so have no connection to it. And besides, one can only take so much of that talk of ever-elusive "reconciliation" stuff & the discovery of yet another ad hoc burial site -- anyway (with all due respect to the culture, of course).

[Michael Hardner]

35 minutes ago, Eddy said:

.. yet another ad hoc burial site -- anyway (with all due respect to the culture, of course).

Weird that you would imply that burial sites are faked then defer to respecting the culture.

Welcome to Canada, maybe your kids will care about our history...

[Eddy]

"...You would imply that burial sites are faked..."

However did you get the impression that I "...imply that burial sites are faked"...? Those are your words, not mine.

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Eddy said:

"...You would imply that burial sites are faked..."

However did you get the impression that I "...imply that burial sites are faked"...? Those are your words, not mine.

Well yes. What else would ad hoc burial site mean?   Unless I misunderstood.

[Eddy]

"...Well yes. What else would ad hoc burial site mean...?"

Michael, tell me this: has any authority -- be it Indigenous, or otherwise -- actually exhumed so much as even one single grave in order to ascertain its "contents"...? 

No,they have not. Not that I'm aware of myself, anyway.

It strikes me that both Indigenous & federal hands are content solely with the exchange of dirty Canadian dollars in this debate, & hardly wish to deal with the consequent hassle of having to remove any dirt under their fingernails as a direct consequence of any real-actual excavation(s).

[Michael Hardner]

56 minutes ago, Eddy said:

"...Well yes. What else would ad hoc burial site mean...?"

Michael, tell me this: has any authority -- be it Indigenous, or otherwise -- actually exhumed so much as even one single grave in order to ascertain its "contents"...? 

No,they have not. Not that I'm aware of myself, anyway.

It strikes me that both Indigenous & federal hands are content solely with the exchange of dirty Canadian dollars in this debate, & hardly wish to deal with the consequent hassle of having to remove any dirt under their fingernails as a direct consequence of any real-actual excavation(s).

Okay so you are saying they're fake?

You know if I ask a question , based on my interpretation of what you wrote, you're free to answer just yes or no.

[Eddy]

"...Okay so you are saying they're fake...?"

I'm not saying that they're real or fake -- just unconfirmed by any hard & fast actual evidence.

Hardly like how you conducted yourself earlier, when you probed me with, "Have you listened to any of [the C.B.C.] ?  Is it any good ?" & then when you were similarly questioned in return, you came back with practically an entire C.B.C. catalogue of, "Metro Morning, Toronto, the current, Day 6, The House and a few others..."

[Michael Hardner]

31 minutes ago, Eddy said:

"...Okay so you are saying they're fake...?"

1. I'm not saying that they're real or fake -- just unconfirmed by any hard & fast actual evidence.

2. Hardly like how you conducted yourself earlier, when you probed me with, "Have you listened to any of [the C.B.C.] ?  Is it any good ?" & then when you were similarly questioned in return, you came back with practically an entire C.B.C. catalogue of, "Metro Morning, Toronto, the current, Day 6, The House and a few others..."

1. Why would you use the word ad hoc to mean unconfirmed?

2. Yes.... Is it so surprising that I asked you about a show that I didn't listen to because you seem to listen to it?  Don't look for conflict. It's not there.

[Eddy]

"...Don't look for conflict. It's not there..."

Oh, but you have found "perceived conflict" -- & you're obviously more than willing & able to effectively "mine" that perceived motherlode to the max, too.

[Eddy]

"...Why would you use the word ad hoc to mean unconfirmed...?"

Not to belabour this ad infinitum, but from on-line, "...In current American English [ad hoc] is used to describe something that has been formed or used for a special and immediate purpose, without previous planning..."

I guess that's about as good a description of the latest in an ongoing series of the discovery of the umpteenth secret burial place, can get.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Eddy said:

"...Why would you use the word ad hoc to mean unconfirmed...?"

Not to belabour this ad infinitum, but from on-line, "...In current American English [ad hoc] is used to describe something that has been formed or used for a special and immediate purpose, without previous planning..."

I guess that's about as good a description of the latest in an ongoing series of the discovery of the umpteenth secret burial place, can get.

Right.  So now explain how a discovered burial site is ad hoc.

[Eddy]

"...So now explain how a discovered burial site is ad hoc..."

Is it a proven-and-confirmed-beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt honest to goodness burial site, or just some interesting in-the-ground radar blips...?

[Michael Hardner]

It doesn't meet the definition.

[Eddy]

Tell you what Michael -- you define it for me, then. And while you're at it, please pass-on any reference to where even one grave was unearthed to confirm its contents.

Because so far all that I've ever seen in the media is a lot of talk & speculation.

[Michael Hardner]

Ad Hoc

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad hoc

ad hoc

 

2 of 2

adjective

1

a

: concerned with a particular end or purpose

an ad hoc investigating committee

b

: formed or used for specific or immediate problems or needs

ad hoc solutions

2

: fashioned from whatever is immediately available : IMPROVISED

large ad hoc parades and demonstrations

—Nat Hentoff

...

the sites, whether you believe they were graves or not, were not fashioned, formed, created for some side purpose.

 

 

They may well not be graves, but that doesn't mean they're ad hoc.  That's what confused me.  

Cheers.

 

Edited February 18, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[OftenWrong]

On 2/16/2024 at 7:35 AM, Eddy said:

That is specialized programming effectively hijacking sizable chunks of air time for benefit of only 5% of the Canadian population: what relevance to the other 95% of Canadians is there in that, & in turn, why in the world should I be told that I should ruefully mourn the disappearance of the C.B.C. from our media landscape (the absence of commercials notwithstanding)...?

That may not be the point at all. Under the CRTC all Canadian media outlets are obliged to provide a majority of Canadian content. Now I'm no expert but that's how it used to be, no less than 60% if I recall.

Now, you can only play Rush and Triumph songs for so long and it's time to show something else. But these days, there is nothing else or at least not a lot of new pop music coming out. And yet native art abounds. They've also got their own pop-music scene, some of which I've heard was very interesting and good.

Next problem is, Royaltees. Playing Avril Levine costs more than Tanya Tatonga...  

Now you add in a little Trudeau virtue-sigalling, you got yerself a recipe there fella.

 

[OftenWrong]

 

[Eddy]

9 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

 

Is that not a prime example of "cultural misappropriation"...? That, and his Indigenous Peoples' tattoo that he sports on his shoulder...?

Or is this merely the reincarnation of Mr. Dress-Up...? Or both...?!

[OftenWrong]

4 minutes ago, Eddy said:

Is that not a prime example of "cultural misappropriation"...? That, and his Indigenous Peoples' tattoo that he sports on his shoulder...?

Or is this merely the reincarnation of Mr. Dress-Up...? Or both...?!

The self-satisfied look on his face should answer the question for you...

[Eddy]

"...The self-satisfied look on his face should answer the question for you..."

I'm able to look at it for only so long.

 

[Eddy]

It must be just awful for someone like him to be born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but saddled with a completely vacant mind as to what to do with his life. 

Obviously he likes to toy around with the accoutrements & paraphernalia of other cultures so, but it's simply not personally satisfying enough, for any length of time. How lucky for him that by the grace of the gods he fell fortuitously into politics, because he tried -- & ultimately failed -- in all of his other "life's callings".

That's why he'll never ever take that long last walk in the snow like his father did -- because he has absolutely nothing left to fall back upon. Politics took a shine to him (albeit for only 8 years so far...but counting) & he basked in the glow that it generously bestowed upon him. Sadly for him that glow is fading fast -- only he lacks the forethought & insight to recognize that reality. And he must take whatever next step(s) that he might because even his own wife & family have abandoned him.

Almost a Shakespearean tragedy here in the works, eh...?