newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Funny that Harper has stepped away from some of his past comments. I present but a few of his gems. "Mr. Speaker, the issue of war requires moral leadership. We believe the government should stand by our troops, our friends and our allies and do everything necessary to support them right through to victory." - Stephen Harper, supporting the American invasion of Iraq, House of Commons, April 1, 2003. "Thank you for saying to our friends in the United States of America, you are our ally, our neighbour, and our best friend in the whole wide world. And when your brave men and women give their lives for freedom and democracy we are not neutral. We do not stand on the sidelines; we're for the disarmament of Saddam and the liberation of the people of Iraq." - Stephen Harper, Friends of America Rally, April 4, "Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status, led by a second-world strongman appropriately suited for the task." - Stephen Harper in his article "It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada," December 12th, 2000. "A culture of defeat..." - Stephen Harper, describing the Atlantic provinces, May 2001. It's past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act." - Stephen Harper, then Vice-President of the National Citizens Coalition, 1997 Quote
Hicksey Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Funny that Harper has stepped away from some of his past comments. I present but a few of his gems."Mr. Speaker, the issue of war requires moral leadership. We believe the government should stand by our troops, our friends and our allies and do everything necessary to support them right through to victory." - Stephen Harper, supporting the American invasion of Iraq, House of Commons, April 1, 2003. "Thank you for saying to our friends in the United States of America, you are our ally, our neighbour, and our best friend in the whole wide world. And when your brave men and women give their lives for freedom and democracy we are not neutral. We do not stand on the sidelines; we're for the disarmament of Saddam and the liberation of the people of Iraq." - Stephen Harper, Friends of America Rally, April 4, "Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status, led by a second-world strongman appropriately suited for the task." - Stephen Harper in his article "It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada," December 12th, 2000. "A culture of defeat..." - Stephen Harper, describing the Atlantic provinces, May 2001. It's past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act." - Stephen Harper, then Vice-President of the National Citizens Coalition, 1997 Gotta love to hear libs pound away at the Iraq argument when they know if the UN agreed Canada would have been there too. We're slaves to the UN. The UN made that decision, not Chretien or Martin. Patting the Liberals on the back for that is like patting them on the back for breathing. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - βIn many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.β - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
Canuck E Stan Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 On our forum. In Canada. Newbie. Desperately looking for Harper quotes Desperately trying to connect In Canada. I'm not making this up. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." β Winston Churchill
newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 The UN security council didn't sanction Bush to go into Iraq. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 The Liberals have done their best to create a 2nd tier welfare state with a defeatist attitude, but thanks to voters it looks like Canada may again be on track to achieve greatness. Quote
newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 On our forum.In Canada. Newbie. Desperately looking for Harper quotes Desperately trying to connect In Canada. I'm not making this up. So refute them. Your leader can't. Quote
Hicksey Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 The UN security council didn't sanction Bush to go into Iraq. Where did I say it did? The leaders in question blindly followed the UN as usual. There was no thinking involved. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - βIn many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.β - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
I miss Reagan Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 On our forum. In Canada. Newbie. Desperately looking for Harper quotes Desperately trying to connect In Canada. I'm not making this up. So refute them. Your leader can't. Why would anyone want to refute them, they're great comments! Quote "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war." -Karl Rove
Melanie_ Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Even though I agree with Newbie, I have to say, Canuck, that was pretty funny! Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Hicksey Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 On our forum. In Canada. Newbie. Desperately looking for Harper quotes Desperately trying to connect In Canada. I'm not making this up. So refute them. Your leader can't. Why would anyone want to refute them, they're great comments! I like you already just seeing your handle. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - βIn many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.β - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
mowich Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Funny that Harper has stepped away from some of his past comments. I present but a few of his gems."Mr. Speaker, the issue of war requires moral leadership. We believe the government should stand by our troops, our friends and our allies and do everything necessary to support them right through to victory." - Stephen Harper, supporting the American invasion of Iraq, House of Commons, April 1, 2003. "Thank you for saying to our friends in the United States of America, you are our ally, our neighbour, and our best friend in the whole wide world. And when your brave men and women give their lives for freedom and democracy we are not neutral. We do not stand on the sidelines; we're for the disarmament of Saddam and the liberation of the people of Iraq." - Stephen Harper, Friends of America Rally, April 4, "Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status, led by a second-world strongman appropriately suited for the task." - Stephen Harper in his article "It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada," December 12th, 2000. "A culture of defeat..." - Stephen Harper, describing the Atlantic provinces, May 2001. It's past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act." - Stephen Harper, then Vice-President of the National Citizens Coalition, 1997 Oh PUhleeeese! Mr. Harper has merely put those comments in context, something you haven't done. He has not stepped away from them. Besides which he was right on to say what he did. Many people have been content to see this country become a Second Rate socialist country. But not anymore, thank saner minds. We were wrong not to support the US in the war, considering the fact that we did and do indeed have soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. This country would not be what it is today without the support and friendship of the United States. It is our biggest trading partner whether you like that or not. If nothing else they deserve our respect. I do not like Mr. Bush but I'll be damned if I am going to condemn a entire country when only and barely 50% of their population, not taking into account poor voter turn-out, elected the man. Mr. Harper will finally put Canada in a position to deal with the US on all our trade issues. He will also be the man to resolve the huge issue of the softwood lumber agreement, because he will act out of respect. Knock Mr. Harper all you want it will do you little good now. Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Second-rate socialist countries aren't as nice to live in as this place. Canada is doing very well for itself. You should be grateful (not to the Libs, necessarily--but geez, ever go to South America?). Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 oops, obiously a weak moment. I forgot how you cons like to ignore Harper's true ideology. My bad. Enjoy the slide if/when Harper gets in. Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Gotta love to hear libs pound away at the Iraq argument when they know if the UN agreed Canada would have been there too. We're slaves to the UN. The UN made that decision, not Chretien or Martin.Patting the Liberals on the back for that is like patting them on the back for breathing. But that was the point Hicksey. After WWII, the civilized world agreed to invade only with U.N. approval. This was supposed to help us prevent another Reich. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 [quote name='Hicksey' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:06 PM' post='88159 Where did I say it did? The leaders in question blindly followed the UN as usual. There was no thinking involved. Well, the UN, like I said, did not sanction Bush's invasion. But if there was agreement from the security council, of course Canada would have gone. Thank God saner minds recognized the illegality of Bush's plunder for oil and prevailed that day. Quote
Hicksey Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Where did I say it did? The leaders in question blindly followed the UN as usual. There was no thinking involved. Well, the UN, like I said, did not sanction Bush's invasion. But if there was agreement from the security council, of course Canada would have gone. Thank God saner minds recognized the illegality of Bush's plunder for oil and prevailed that day. If you're going to trash the Americans' decision at least be informed. 95% of the oil is still under contract to the French, Germans and Russians. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - βIn many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.β - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
I miss Reagan Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 hey newbie..... BOO! Quote "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war." -Karl Rove
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Second-rate socialist countries aren't as nice to live in as this place. Canada is doing very well for itself. You should be grateful (not to the Libs, necessarily--but geez, ever go to South America?). That's Canada's problem - we compare ourselves to South America and feel good. Per Capita income, 2004: USA $40,100 Canada $31,100 Quote
newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 Where did I say it did? The leaders in question blindly followed the UN as usual. There was no thinking involved. Well, the UN, like I said, did not sanction Bush's invasion. But if there was agreement from the security council, of course Canada would have gone. Thank God saner minds recognized the illegality of Bush's plunder for oil and prevailed that day. If you're going to trash the Americans' decision at least be informed. 95% of the oil is still under contract to the French, Germans and Russians. A link?? Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Where did I say it did? The leaders in question blindly followed the UN as usual. There was no thinking involved. Well, the UN, like I said, did not sanction Bush's invasion. But if there was agreement from the security council, of course Canada would have gone. Thank God saner minds recognized the illegality of Bush's plunder for oil and prevailed that day. If you're going to trash the Americans' decision at least be informed. 95% of the oil is still under contract to the French, Germans and Russians. A link?? This is about more than just oil. It's about radical islamists who hate the western way of life. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 The final quote: Posted by Newbie on: May 27 2005, 05:50 PM I choose to base my beliefs on the tangible, not on some 2000+ year old document Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." β Winston Churchill
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 The final quote:Posted by Newbie on: May 27 2005, 05:50 PM I choose to base my beliefs on the tangible, not on some 2000+ year old document Huh? Quote
newbie Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 Jerry, do you honestly believe that companies like ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and TotalFinaElf are not going to benefit in Iraqi oil? You are totally naive to think this is just about ridding the world of some radical islamists. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Jerry, do you honestly believe that companies like ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and TotalFinaElf are not going to benefit in Iraqi oil? You are totally naive to think this is just about ridding the world of some radical islamists. I COMPLETELY believe these companies will benefit. And so will democracy and the push for human rights and order in a part of the world that is plagued by hatred for freedom, women's rights and the western way of life. I'm not so naive to think Oil isn't ONE motive, but don't be so naive as to think its the ONLY one. Quote
mar Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Gotta love to hear libs pound away at the Iraq argument when they know if the UN agreed Canada would have been there too. We're slaves to the UN. The UN made that decision, not Chretien or Martin.Patting the Liberals on the back for that is like patting them on the back for breathing. This one's really below your usual standard. The entire point was that the U.N. did not agree because they felt there was insufficient reason. Had they thought there was sufficient reason, it would have been a totally different situation and Canada, France Germany and others would have been involved but NOT as a U.S. cowboy mission. So what you're saying is "had the member nations of the U.N. found a compelling reason to take military action against Iraq Canada would have participated. Because the U.N. did not find a compelling reason, they did not sanction it and Canada did not particpate." Gotta feel a "DUH" is in order. The courage of resolve on Cretien's part it was in resisting the combination of bribes, extortion and blackmail the U.S. used to try to force other countries to participate. None of this gets Mr. Harper off the hook for feeling scoring brownie points with Bush was well worth the lives of Canadian troops. Quote
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