Shady Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Rapist's Prison Sentence Triggers Outrage Burlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2005 There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a four-year span starting when she was seven. The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned about rehabilitation. Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven. But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes that punishment works. "The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was in court to be sentenced. The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in prison, in part, as punishment. Link Quote
FTA Lawyer Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Rapist's Prison Sentence Triggers OutrageBurlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2005 There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a four-year span starting when she was seven. The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned about rehabilitation. Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven. But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes that punishment works. "The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was in court to be sentenced. The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in prison, in part, as punishment. Link Insanity should not be mistakenly labled "Liberal Activism". Cases like this are why we have 1) Appeal Courts and 2) Judiciary Review Panels. FTA Quote
America1 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Rapist's Prison Sentence Triggers Outrage Burlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2005 There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a four-year span starting when she was seven. The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned about rehabilitation. Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven. But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes that punishment works. "The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was in court to be sentenced. The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in prison, in part, as punishment. Link Insanity should not be mistakenly labled "Liberal Activism". Cases like this are why we have 1) Appeal Courts and 2) Judiciary Review Panels. FTA The case has nothing to do with Insanity. The wacko judge just feels punishment doesn't work. He is dead wrong on the issue and it seems he will be removed from the bench. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 I'm still trying to see what this case has to do with judicial activism. Quote
legamus Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 this kind of stuff burns me up. if that guy re-offends the judge should be tried as an accessory or something. Quote
Argus Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The case has nothing to do with Insanity. The wacko judge just feels Eh? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 I'm still trying to see what this case has to do with judicial activism. Well then, perhaps you'll like this. It's an excellent read, though I have my doubts many will put in sufficient time to go to the end. Robed dictators Some of the points: On the Mortgentaler decision: "In a dissenting opinion, Mr. Justice William McIntyre raised this same point. He did not challenge Judge Wilson's views on the evolving value of life in the womb. He did not express any opinion on the morality of abortion. Instead, he argued that the courts should not pass judgment on an abortion law in interpreting the Charter. He insisted: "The solution to this question in this country must be left to Parliament. It is for Parliament to pronounce on, and to direct, social policy. This is not because Parliament can claim all wisdom and knowledge but simply because Parliament is elected for that purpose in a free democracy and, in addition, has the facilities - the exposure to public opinion and information - as well as the political power to make effect its decisions." On the Latimer decision The case of Robert Latimer, the Saskatchewan man who killed his severely handicapped daughter, provides a particularly flagrant example of judge-politicians setting aside the law. In sentencing Latimer for second degree murder, Mr. Justice G. E. Noble of the Saskatchewan Court of Queen's Bench decided that the Criminal Code's mandatory minimum penalty of 10 years would violate the Charter guarantee against cruel and unusual punishment. Instead, he found Latimer guilty of "compassionate homicide" — a crime unknown to the Criminal Code — and sentenced him to one year in prison, plus 12 months of house arrest. While many Canadians applauded the verdict, others were horrified. Lost in this debate are the alarming implications of Judge Noble's flouting of the law. Can the rights of any citizen be secure in a democracy that allows a judge to set aside the Criminal Code in favor of whatever penalty he considers appropriate? On Feeney With this statement, Judge Sopinka stood truth on its head. Far from affirming the rule of law, he abandoned it. Instead of upholding the common law, he and the Supreme Court imposed their own peculiar ideas of what the law should require. To compound the effrontery, the court gave Parliament just six months to either enact a new arrest warrant law or see the courts release thousands of other criminals on grounds that they, too, had been arrested contrary to the Supreme Court's newly minted legal requirements. Senator Anne Cools, a Liberal appointed to the Senate by former prime minister Pierre Trudeau, bristles at such judicial blackmail. During a debate on federal legislation introduced at Judge Sopinka's bidding, she rebuked him for usurping "the singular and exclusive jurisdiction of the Parliament of Canada." She told the Senate "that Mr. Justice Sopinka has reviewed Parliament's wish to pass or not pass a statute, and has made an order that effects a command to Parliament to enact a statute by his deadline as ordered; that Justice Sopinka could come to this Chamber to give royal assent to this same Bill C-16, is an exercise of power unknown to Canada's constitutional monarchy and, more important, unknown to Canadian parliamentary history and practice." Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
legamus Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 that latimer decision is a tough one - i don't know what i think of it; i'm certainly glad i didn't have to pass judgement on him! (i think cases like that though are a decent argument to not scrap that notwithstanding clause - please excuse my putting that in this thread, it just came to mind reading (skimming) through that stuff.) Quote
geoffrey Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 that latimer decision is a tough one - i don't know what i think of it; i'm certainly glad i didn't have to pass judgement on him!(i think cases like that though are a decent argument to not scrap that notwithstanding clause - please excuse my putting that in this thread, it just came to mind reading (skimming) through that stuff.) Latimer should have had murder one and life. Whats the age of consent on euthanasia? You can't consent to sex until 14, you can't drink until 18-19, you can't vote until 18... but you can consent that your life is no longer worth living at 12? Or is the argument the parent can decide if the child's life is worth living until they can? Doesn't this justify any case of killing your kids, for all, the parent always knows? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
YankAbroad Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 Ah, yes, the infamous "activist judge." Activist judge = judge who makes a decision about the law which I disapprove of Proper jurist = judge who makes a decision about the law which I approve of Legislating from the bench = judge who strikes down an unconstitutional law which I supported Defending our liberties = judge who strikes down an unconstitutional law which I opposed Etc., etc., etc. Quote
FTA Lawyer Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 Ah, yes, the infamous "activist judge."Activist judge = judge who makes a decision about the law which I disapprove of Proper jurist = judge who makes a decision about the law which I approve of Legislating from the bench = judge who strikes down an unconstitutional law which I supported Defending our liberties = judge who strikes down an unconstitutional law which I opposed Etc., etc., etc. Well put. FTA Quote
Guest eureka Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 The most succint commentary on this that I have ever seen. Millions of words have been written an that summarizes them. Quote
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