cybercoma Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 So what, Argus. I imagine at least a couple of people who post here went to Private School. They haven't made Peome Minister and probably not millions through their own efforts. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The point is he has never been middle class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 So what, Argus. I imagine at least a couple of people who post here went to Private School. They haven't made Peome Minister and probably not millions through their own efforts. If my dad could get me a job as Maurice Strong's personal assistant, I bet I could make millions through my own efforts too. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck E Stan Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Kimmy, Ahh,to have a fleet of ocean going oil well today.You wouldn't even need to change the flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Martin was the son of a Member of Parliament - not the best paayed position, as we have seen. There was no family fortune behind them. The job was given to hom because he merited it. Do you think Power Corporation became what it is through the practise of nepotism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Oh, of course not. All merit, I'm sure. But having the right connections certainly can't hurt. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Power Corp. must've went out of it's way to find a Philosophy major to run their business. Funny how all the philosophy majors I know can barely get into lawschool now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoop Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Wow Eureka, what exactly were his special qualifications that got him in to Power Corp? Outstanding undergraduate grades? A lifetime of connections and access to the halls of power in the Liberal Party thanks to his father, a long-serving cabinet minister and oft-failed leadership aspirant. Good job revenging your father Paul... Martin was the son of a Member of Parliament - not the best paayed position, as we have seen. There was no family fortune behind them. The job was given to hom because he merited it. Do you think Power Corporation became what it is through the practise of nepotism? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 The point is he has never been middle class And he has never tried to portray himself as such.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Did you see on the CTV website.... Some radio station wanted to see just how much of an "average guy" Harper was... And he didn't know how much milk or eggs cost..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 The point is he has never been middle class And he has never tried to portray himself as such.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...because unlike Harper, he never has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Martin was the son of a Member of Parliament - not the best paayed position, as we have seen. There was no family fortune behind them. The job was given to hom because he merited it. Do you think Power Corporation became what it is through the practise of nepotism? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Martin senior did a lot of favours for the Desmarais, and they paid him back, and backed Martin junior as someone who woujld be able to do even more favours for them in future. And it worked. They've made a fortune out of PM junion, far more than they lost in their cut rate fire sale to Martin Junior of a minor piece of their business empire. Use your head. Only a few years after graduation, Martin was named president of a multi million dollar company? Then, half a dozen years later, the company was sold to him for nearly $200 million dollars, and he managed to get financial backing for that purchase. How? He was an investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Did you see on the CTV website.... Some radio station wanted to see just how much of an "average guy" Harper was... And he didn't know how much milk or eggs cost..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't really know for sure myself. I don't buy eggs, never have. My milk is delivered from a web site. I suppose I should go over the bill more often but I rarely do. I think it's close to five bucks per 4 litre bag. But so what? Does anyone expect busy men like Harper to do their own grocery shopping? Middle class or not? That's what wives are for. (yes, sexist, I know, but usually true nevertheless) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 They still sell milk by the bag? That always seemed really mammarian to me. Is that a word?...probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 They still sell milk by the bag? Well, I suppose that kind of response indicates you are not middle class, but some sort of rich guy elitist out of touch with ordinary Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 No, I just live in MB. We have 4-gallon jugs (for about 3 bucks) and cartons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 I meant litres not gallons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southerncomfort Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 They still sell milk by the bag? Well, I suppose that kind of response indicates you are not middle class, but some sort of rich guy elitist out of touch with ordinary Canadians. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah,doubt my husband would know the price of jug or bag of milk either. Guess he's just outof touch with ordinary Canucks too. Harper is middleclass, upper middle class, sure not rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Nobody gets rich from their salary as a politician in Canada. They all wind up rich by the time they're done though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southerncomfort Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Nobody gets rich from their salary as a politician in Canada. They all wind up rich by the time they're done though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They do, not all of them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim MacSquinty Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 I always wondered about Chretien, he was in politics virtually from birth and only had a brief sojorn in the Libs favourite Law firm but somehow retired a multimillionaire. Maybe his wife has a head for business? I even bought a couple of biographies but neither shed light on this. His daughter married a Desmaris though, maybe a backwards dowry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted December 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Nobody gets rich from their salary as a politician in Canada. They all wind up rich by the time they're done though. Look at Mulroney... on the board of directors of how many corporations.... Mike Harris on the board of director of how many corporations.... Margaret Thatcher... While they're in office, they "do things" that help these companies, and when the're done, they end up on the boards of directors, with good compensation.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Nobody gets rich from their salary as a politician in Canada. They all wind up rich by the time they're done though. Look at Mulroney... on the board of directors of how many corporations.... Mike Harris on the board of director of how many corporations.... Margaret Thatcher... While they're in office, they "do things" that help these companies, and when the're done, they end up on the boards of directors, with good compensation.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let us not forget Jean Chretien, who was a small town lawyer of only a couple years experience when he entered parliament, and is now a multi-millionaire, somehow.... And Paul Martin, whose father was rewarded, and who was sort of "pre rewarded" by the Desmarais by selling him a shipping company for a song, and arranging for him to get $180 million in financing to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 I always wondered about Chretien, he was in politics virtually from birth and only had a brief sojorn in the Libs favourite Law firm but somehow retired a multimillionaire. Maybe his wife has a head for business?I even bought a couple of biographies but neither shed light on this. His daughter married a Desmaris though, maybe a backwards dowry? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Chretien took a brief sojourn in the private sector after Turner won the leadership. Everyone on the planet knew he would be leader next, and a law firm gave him a huge salary to join them. I'm quite certain they didn't trust him to actually do any work there, given he was a small town lawyer with all of about 2 years experience, and that two decades earlier. But they knew that whatever they paid him would be richly rewarded when he got into office again. Add to that ten years or so as PM, never having to pay for housing, car, food, holidays, etc., on a quarter million dollar a year salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 These slurs on Chretien and Martin are simply disgusting. There is no truth to any of it and I think it is time you began to use your heads for something relating to truth. You have no idea what CSL was worth for example and a $180 million financing is more than a song This is becoming libelous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovecanada Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 These slurs on Chretien and Martin are simply disgusting. There is no truth to any of it and I think it is time you began to use your heads for something relating to truth.You have no idea what CSL was worth for example and a $180 million financing is more than a song This is becoming libelous. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Truth.. I'm voting Conservative!! Try and sue that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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