Young Liberals posing as average Canadians.

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Didn't the Liberals care what Kinsella said in 93, 97 and 2000?

Hell even Paul Wells has picked up on this story. Many people in the ads have a direct financial interest in the Liberals winning. Of course they want a Liberal government, but how do they represent average Canadians...

It is dishonest and sad. Why couldn't they find ordinary Canadians to appear in the ad? That would have been preferable.

What a load of bull this all is. And who cares what Kinsells says?

As I said, it is done by all parties and all interest groups. I don't see anything wrong with it or would you rather employ professional actors to play the roles?

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Kinsella carries (or did carry) a lot of weight, its interesting how he's changed recently - remember a couple of years ago on the Alliance website, the "Spinning Warren's Web" someone in the party did a good job of rebutting him. Kinsella was the master of liberal spin.

Speaking of who might be in the liberals pay with all the liberal talking points Maybe the liberals are picking up on the Chinese methodology, that of paying party workers to take part in discussion groups such as this, and spreading the party line. In fact, I'm surprised that parties do not have someone on line with a good knowledge and background of all the issues, posting on larger discussion groups, at least during election time.

[normanchateau]

Maybe the liberals are picking up on the Chinese methodology, that of paying party workers to take part in discussion groups such as this, and spreading the party line. 

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Seems that there are far more Harper supporters on this board than there are Liberal or NDP supporters. But so far no one seems to be suggesting that the large number of CPC supporters here are paid by CPC.

Could it be that CPC supporters are simply more paranoid and subject to conspiracy theories? Or could it be that given the quality of some of the arguments put forth by some Harper supporters, no one would ever suspect them of being worthy of a CPC pay cheque?

[shoop]

The article that started this thread had *actual evidence* of the letter writing campaign. In my OP I didn't say anything about the YLs being paid for their efforts.

Seems that there are far more Harper supporters on this board than there are Liberal or NDP supporters.  But so far no one seems to be suggesting that the large number of CPC supporters here are paid by CPC. 

Could it be that CPC supporters are simply more  paranoid and subject to conspiracy theories?  Or could it be that given the quality of some of the arguments put forth by some Harper supporters, no one would ever suspect them of being worthy of a CPC pay cheque?

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[shoop]

Shakey my man,

I told you on another thread I don't really get worked up by this stuff.

I am here to read and learn. Take a look at the heat I have taken from the *hard core conservatives* for finding fault with Mark Steyn, Ezra Levant and canadafreepress.com.

I agree that the board should be for people from all parties. I learn a lot about other people. If I were out door knocking and came across Normie Chateau I would walk away in about ten seconds. Definitley not worth the time.

You are too funny Shoop... You best relax, you're going to have a heart attack one of these days. 

There are members of all stripes here, read a little and learn a little, I know I have.  Just because a person doesn't subscribe to your political beliefs does not mean they need to be stricken from the roles here.  MLW, as far as I am concerned, is not a CPC Party board.

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[scribblet]

The article that started this thread had *actual evidence* of the letter writing campaign. In my OP I didn't say anything about the YLs being paid for their efforts.

Seems that there are far more Harper supporters on this board than there are Liberal or NDP supporters.  But so far no one seems to be suggesting that the large number of CPC supporters here are paid by CPC. 

Could it be that CPC supporters are simply more  paranoid and subject to conspiracy theories?  Or could it be that given the quality of some of the arguments put forth by some Harper supporters, no one would ever suspect them of being worthy of a CPC pay cheque?

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That last reply from Normanc is a pretty low blow, I don't see how a comment such as that adds to any debate. I suppose in some minds quantity trumps quality.

cheers

[normanchateau]

I agree that the board should be for people from all parties. I learn a lot about other people. If I were out door knocking and came across Normie Chateau I would walk away in about ten seconds.

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Maybe less. If I ever found Harper campaigners at my door, my laughter at their poor choice of a leader would instantly make them realize that they're wasting their time. Maybe next time when CPC picks a more socially tolerant leader, I'll actually listen to their message when they knock at my door.

[newbie]

That last reply from Normanc is a pretty low blow, I don't see how a comment such as that adds to any debate.  I suppose in some minds quantity trumps quality.

cheers

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Speaking of low blows, before you chastize Normie, please read some "writings" of the poster who goes by the name of a cartoon character.

[normanchateau]

The article that started this thread had *actual evidence* of the letter writing campaign. In my OP I didn't say anything about the YLs being paid for their efforts.

Seems that there are far more Harper supporters on this board than there are Liberal or NDP supporters.  But so far no one seems to be suggesting that the large number of CPC supporters here are paid by CPC. 

Could it be that CPC supporters are simply more  paranoid and subject to conspiracy theories?  Or could it be that given the quality of some of the arguments put forth by some Harper supporters, no one would ever suspect them of being worthy of a CPC pay cheque?

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That last reply from Normanc is a pretty low blow, I don't see how a comment such as that adds to any debate. I suppose in some minds quantity trumps quality.

cheers

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I don't think it's a low blow to suggest that there's a disproportionate number of CPC supporters on this board.

[fellowtraveller]

I can understand why a political party would want to use their people to write letters to the editor or appear in television advertisements. It might swing a few undecided voters in their direction.  However, it strikes me as a very inefficient and near-pointless effort to employ such people on discussion boards such as this one.

It's my impression that there are relatively few undecided voters on political discussion boards.  Most people on discussion boards aren't easily swayed. How many of you on this discussion board switched from Liberal supporter to CPC supporter, or vice versa, as a result of something you read on this board?  My guess is that the number would be in the single digits.  In my opinion, most of us here know which party or parties we loathe and we're not about to change our views no matter what evidence we acquire on this board. Perhaps I'm just speaking for myself when I say that there's no party that I especially like but there's one I loathe more than the others. That might describe others as well.

If others agree with my point that none of us here are influencing the others, then why are we here?  My theory is that it's simply because we enjoy it...but there are probably alternative theories.

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Normie, your nose is growing. You used to frequent another board with the same Liberal-rallying and flagwaving obsessiveness you show here, until that board got tough and banned political posts (Lonely Planet Thorn Tree, Canada Branch). Your modus operandi has not changed, only your location- but much tougher sledding here, non?

You'll be gone after the election, as usual.

[scribblet]

That last reply from Normanc is a pretty low blow, I don't see how a comment such as that adds to any debate.  I suppose in some minds quantity trumps quality.

cheers

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Speaking of low blows, before you chastize Normie, please read some "writings" of the poster who goes by the name of a cartoon character.

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Sorry so far I don't recognize a cartoon character name, must be one before my time

[normanchateau]

I can understand why a political party would want to use their people to write letters to the editor or appear in television advertisements. It might swing a few undecided voters in their direction.  However, it strikes me as a very inefficient and near-pointless effort to employ such people on discussion boards such as this one.

It's my impression that there are relatively few undecided voters on political discussion boards.  Most people on discussion boards aren't easily swayed. How many of you on this discussion board switched from Liberal supporter to CPC supporter, or vice versa, as a result of something you read on this board?  My guess is that the number would be in the single digits.  In my opinion, most of us here know which party or parties we loathe and we're not about to change our views no matter what evidence we acquire on this board. Perhaps I'm just speaking for myself when I say that there's no party that I especially like but there's one I loathe more than the others. That might describe others as well.

If others agree with my point that none of us here are influencing the others, then why are we here?  My theory is that it's simply because we enjoy it...but there are probably alternative theories.

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Normie, your nose is growing.

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Really? What did I say that's not true?

[shoop]

Really?  What did I say that's not true?

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Perhaps I'm just speaking for myself when I say that there's no party that I especially like

You have never posted anything that questions any ND politician or policy. What is it that you don't especially like about the NDs?

[normanchateau]

Really?  What did I say that's not true?

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Perhaps I'm just speaking for myself when I say that there's no party that I especially like

You have never posted anything that questions any ND politician or policy. What is it that you don't especially like about the NDs?

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The federal NDP is not as fiscally conservative as I'd like. Perhaps they need to look to the provincial NDP governments of Manitoba and Saskatchewan.