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[Ladyjen]

A woman cop doesn't need strength, she's the one with the gun.

riiiiggghhhtttt, just how do they toss people in a patrol car, ask them. Also is she to walk around with her gun drawn all the time

An attempt at a little humour here.

There are many female police officers and they seem to be doing just fine. There has been the odd screw up in the past few years but the male cops screw up too, with a little too much brutality.

[blueblood]

Brute strength is not worth more than brain power -- regardless of job. Why do you think we pay for educations? Increasing brainpower increases the paycheque.

Standards are standards, I believe in one standard for a particular job. If a guy and a girl are qualifying for 2 teaching positions and the guy has 5 yrs. education and the girl has 7 yrs. she should get paid more than the guy, fair is fair. same goes for lady police officers, if a guy gets a physical score of X in training and the girl gets less than X because of the double standard, (they get the same written exam marks btw) out of fairness she should get paid less because she is LESS QUALIFIED. If she gets score X in training the same as the male, she should get paid the same. BTW I am not saying anyone is weak, I'm saying I hate the double standard.

Sorry, driving a truck alongside a tractor or taking a load of grain off the combine on the fly is not more mentally demanding than chucking hay/silage, its like anything else if you do it long enough it gets easier and easier. Like I said if you stooked hay with your brothers enough, you will get stronger its like working out, unless you don't want big arms and a thick torso I wouldn't suggest stooking hay then.

Last time I chequed a journeyman for the hydro company makes a hell of a lot more than some flake with a 3 year arts degree.

I also don't think women are weak, not at all, I've seen farm girls completely destroy guys from town in arm wrestling. What I do hate is double standards, like in the police force, like it or not in the police force the physical aspect is every bit as important as the mental aspect. One high standard there, if nobody, guy or girl can meet it, they aren't cut out to be a cop, simple. The only women I dislike are those princessy Belinda Stronach types who demand equality but the second something doesn't go their way they piss and moan about it, why in the hell should I respect people like that?

If your life was in danger who would you want saving it; a female officer who has the exact same physical skills as her male counterpart or the female officer who is only a female officer because of lower physical standards just so they can get in?

[blueblood]

A woman cop doesn't need strength, she's the one with the gun.

riiiiggghhhtttt, just how do they toss people in a patrol car, ask them. Also is she to walk around with her gun drawn all the time

An attempt at a little humour here.

There are many female police officers and they seem to be doing just fine. There has been the odd screw up in the past few years but the male cops screw up too, with a little too much brutality.

With brutality, thats a matter of opinion, they're trained it's better to be a defendant than a corpse. Here's a screw up for you, my brother in the RCMP is arresting a guy twice his size, they're indoors so they can't use pepperspray and he doesn't trust a taser. His partner was a female cop who was on the petite side, who obviously didn't meet the physical standards of males. Long story short in the process of arresting him he came out with battle scars and bruised ribs, what did she do NOTHING!!! She should have been in there with him helping out. This is a big basis of my argument, if your going to be arresting a big bruiser like that, you have to meet specs, it's a matter of safety for yourself, partner, and the public.

[Drea]

Standards are standards, I believe in one standard for a particular job. If a guy and a girl are qualifying for 2 teaching positions and the guy has 5 yrs. education and the girl has 7 yrs. she should get paid more than the guy, fair is fair. same goes for lady police officers, if a guy gets a physical score of X in training and the girl gets less than X because of the double standard, (they get the same written exam marks btw) out of fairness she should get paid less because she is LESS QUALIFIED. If she gets score X in training the same as the male, she should get paid the same. BTW I am not saying anyone is weak, I'm saying I hate the double standard.

I agree -- there should be no double standards. If you can't do the job you should not have "special" concessions made on your behalf. Female officers (small ones) should be in jobs suited to their size, whatever that may be.

Sorry, driving a truck alongside a tractor or taking a load of grain off the combine on the fly is not more mentally demanding than chucking hay/silage, its like anything else if you do it long enough it gets easier and easier.

Excuse me? You gotta be able to stay right along side the combine no matter how bumpy the field. I was better at this than my brothers because I was more careful.

Like I said if you stooked hay with your brothers enough, you will get stronger its like working out, unless you don't want big arms and a thick torso I wouldn't suggest stooking hay then.

And I didn't. I could not for the life of me toss a bale of hay at age 15. I'm just too small and there is nothing I can do about it. But I did warrant the same amount per hour as the boys. They could not have stooked without a driver!

Last time I chequed a journeyman for the hydro company makes a hell of a lot more than some flake with a 3 year arts degree.

Who said anything about the arts? Not all education revolves around "touchy feely" subjects. What about computer engineers? Should they make more or less than a person who didn't complete school?

I also don't think women are weak, not at all, I've seen farm girls completely destroy guys from town in arm wrestling.

I am a "farm girl". It didn't make me "man size" or strong as an ox. I can drive anything though!

What I do hate is double standards, like in the police force, like it or not in the police force the physical aspect is every bit as important as the mental aspect. One high standard there, if nobody, guy or girl can meet it, they aren't cut out to be a cop, simple. The only women I dislike are those princessy Belinda Stronach types who demand equality but the second something doesn't go their way they piss and moan about it, why in the hell should I respect people like that?

If your life was in danger who would you want saving it; a female officer who has the exact same physical skills as her male counterpart or the female officer who is only a female officer because of lower physical standards just so they can get in?

Once again, is the duty of a police officer only brute force or does it involve much more? Why not have a "force" partner and a "brain" partner? Perhaps the trouble is that the cops are not taught to defuse situations in any way except the physical.

[blueblood]

Who said anything about the arts? Not all education revolves around "touchy feely" subjects. What about computer engineers? Should they make more or less than a person who didn't complete school?

The point I was trying to make was that just because a person has an education at a university doesn't mean he automatically gets paid more than someone who doesn't. When I custom spray, i make a hell of a lot more than a computer engineer. Just because a person has an education it doesn't make them automatically more entitled to make more money than someone who doesn't. It also depends on demand for the job and what the job is, but Ms. computer engineer who has qualifications is a hell of a lot more qualified than me in the computer engineering field and should make a hell of a lot more money than me in that particular job.

Once again, is the duty of a police officer only brute force or does it involve much more? Why not have a "force" partner and a "brain" partner? Perhaps the trouble is that the cops are not taught to defuse situations in any way except the physical.

In my opinion brute force and mental ability are just as important as each other in the police force, and both aspects of that should have very high standards, same standards for men and women as to get the best officer for the job. Cops are taught to diffuse situations by reasoning first and if it gets out of hand physical for safety reasons and efficiency.