scarascar Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 Better luck in 2011 PS Those stats are real go to CTV morons Quote
kimmy Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 Here is the poll to which he refers. If the Liberals are up that far in Ontario, it might almost make up for all the seats they're going to lose in Quebec. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
tml12 Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 Here is the poll to which he refers.If the Liberals are up that far in Ontario, it might almost make up for all the seats they're going to lose in Quebec. -k <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Especially if you look at the Western poll numbers. Care to comment Scar? He's probably writing a new post on how Harper and Bush are secretly getting married right now? Better not vote for Harper...that hypocrite!!! He's gonna sell us out to the USA The Liberals would still be campaigning like this if Jimmy Carter was still president... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
BQSupporter Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 I do wish that there was just a little bit of honesty that could be included on this website. Instead of the childish and immature behavior of many of the Liberals. Is that to much to ask for? What scarascar fails to mention is that national results are close and that there is a huge number of undecided.. Liberals-34% CPC-30% BQ-14% NDP-16% These childish liberals really are a pain in the ass. Quote
BQSupporter Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 If they had any sense this poll should concern the liberals. The fact that they are tanking every else in the country especially in Quebec and that 26% is not doing to be the lowest the go before this election with the silly and stupid campaign they are running. Lapierre just called BQ supporters Nazi's today. In the west the CPC is strong. Leaving the liberals with Ontario and to be honest the GTA area because we all know that were their numbers are increasing as NDP voters flock to them. So the Liberals increase there vote in the GTA area while they lose everywhere else. What fools. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 Note that the margin of error in these polls lately is getting larger and larger. Two to Three points seem reasonable. But 4.1,4.9,6.3,and 6.8% ,I think that's stretching it. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
BQSupporter Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 Well when you do 70% of your polling on the West side of Montreal, the GTA area and the lower mainland of British Columbia you have to set yourself for any error. Also lets not forget that the owner of this polling firm is Allan Gregg former Liberal party organizer and party member. Quote
Guest eureka Posted December 4, 2005 Report Posted December 4, 2005 Actually Gregg was the PC party pollster before going out. Quote
shoop Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Let's compare these results to 2004. Starting out in BC. So much for the historic breakthrough for the Liberals. Let's say the CPC lose two seats. The Liberals lose one. The NDs pick up three and the Green breakthrough for one. (Cadman's seat explains the discrepancy.) Prairies. The Conservatives pick up three seats altogether - sweeping AB and one more in MB. Everything else stays the same. Ontario is a wash. Same results as 2004. Québéc could see as many as 65 seats for the bloc with the other ten going Liberal. No regional results for the Atlantic provinces, so let's call it the same as 2004. National results. Liberals - 120 MPs. CPC - 100 MPs BQ - 65 MPs NDs - 22 MPs Green - 1 MP. That would definitely lead to both the Liberal and the CPC leaders retiring early in the year with respective leadership conventions held in 2006. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Let's compare these results to 2004.Starting out in BC. So much for the historic breakthrough for the Liberals. Let's say the CPC lose two seats. The Liberals lose one. The NDs pick up three and the Green breakthrough for one. (Cadman's seat explains the discrepancy.) Prairies. The Conservatives pick up three seats altogether - sweeping AB and one more in MB. Everything else stays the same. Ontario is a wash. Same results as 2004. Québéc could see as many as 65 seats for the bloc with the other ten going Liberal. No regional results for the Atlantic provinces, so let's call it the same as 2004. Wishful thinking. According to a poll by Corporate Research Associates published in the St. John's Telegram this weekend and reported in the Vancouver Sun, p.A4, this morning, the Liberals are projected to take all seven seats (versus five in 2004) in Newfoundland and 25 of 32 in Atlantic Canada with the remaining seven going to the NDP and CPC. There are 75 seats in Quebec and at least 12 are anglophone or allophone. Impossible for the BQ to win 65 though 63 is theoretically possible...but unlikely. Whether the Liberals break through in BC or not, CPC will suffer massive losses from their current 22 seats. It's merely a question now of how many they'll lose. Gurmant Grewal's riding association just acclaimed Phil Eidsvik as the replacement CPC candidate. No one else wanted the job. Eidsvik is a disgruntled, anti-aboriginal fisherman who opposes traditional First Nations-only fisheries. Now that'll be a real vote getter in Grewal's riding where one third of the voters are Indo-Canadians and all the fisherman in the riding fit into one minivan. Running against Eidsvik is Sukh Dhaliwal, a well-respected Indo-Canadian who came within a few hundred votes of Grewal in 2004. Quote
scribblet Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Personally I think its too early to place too much emphasis on polls, with such a long campaign who knows what can happen. Even Liberals are not happy with that one. http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.php?...5/campaign/&c=1 December 5th, 2005 NEWS STORY By F. Abbas Rana Many Liberal incumbents unhappy about 56-day election campaign Two weeks ago, Liberal incumbents and party strategists clashed over the length of the campaign. Incumbents didn't want a long campaign. Strategists did. Most incumbent Liberals running for re-election, some in the fights of their political lives, are not happy about the Prime Minister's decision to opt for a 56-day campaign, but they say they are soldiering on. and "But the MPs who have to run in the bloody thing are saying the opposite, the shorter the campaign the better it is for the incumbents," said the Grit source, who said most Liberals incumbents would have wanted to go to the polls on Monday, Jan. 2. The Grit said the Liberals believe a shorter campaign would be more advantageous because the opposition in most cases would have to field a new candidate and if you factor in the shorter campaign and the break at Christmas, it makes it tougher for new candidates to make headway. Moreover, a lengthier campaign is more expensive...... Let's compare these results to 2004.Starting out in BC. So much for the historic breakthrough for the Liberals. Let's say the CPC lose two seats. The Liberals lose one. The NDs pick up three and the Green breakthrough for one. (Cadman's seat explains the discrepancy.) Prairies. The Conservatives pick up three seats altogether - sweeping AB and one more in MB. Everything else stays the same. Ontario is a wash. Same results as 2004. Québéc could see as many as 65 seats for the bloc with the other ten going Liberal. No regional results for the Atlantic provinces, so let's call it the same as 2004. National results. Liberals - 120 MPs. CPC - 100 MPs BQ - 65 MPs NDs - 22 MPs Green - 1 MP. That would definitely lead to both the Liberal and the CPC leaders retiring early in the year with respective leadership conventions held in 2006. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
tml12 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Let's compare these results to 2004.Starting out in BC. So much for the historic breakthrough for the Liberals. Let's say the CPC lose two seats. The Liberals lose one. The NDs pick up three and the Green breakthrough for one. (Cadman's seat explains the discrepancy.) Prairies. The Conservatives pick up three seats altogether - sweeping AB and one more in MB. Everything else stays the same. Ontario is a wash. Same results as 2004. Québéc could see as many as 65 seats for the bloc with the other ten going Liberal. No regional results for the Atlantic provinces, so let's call it the same as 2004. National results. Liberals - 120 MPs. CPC - 100 MPs BQ - 65 MPs NDs - 22 MPs Green - 1 MP. That would definitely lead to both the Liberal and the CPC leaders retiring early in the year with respective leadership conventions held in 2006. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where do you see the one Green seat? In Cadman's old Surrey riding? BTW: Was that idiot banned? Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
scribblet Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Let's compare these results to 2004.Starting out in BC. So much for the historic breakthrough for the Liberals. Let's say the CPC lose two seats. The Liberals lose one. The NDs pick up three and the Green breakthrough for one. (Cadman's seat explains the discrepancy.) Prairies. The Conservatives pick up three seats altogether - sweeping AB and one more in MB. Everything else stays the same. Ontario is a wash. Same results as 2004. Québéc could see as many as 65 seats for the bloc with the other ten going Liberal. No regional results for the Atlantic provinces, so let's call it the same as 2004. National results. Liberals - 120 MPs. CPC - 100 MPs BQ - 65 MPs NDs - 22 MPs Green - 1 MP. That would definitely lead to both the Liberal and the CPC leaders retiring early in the year with respective leadership conventions held in 2006. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where do you see the one Green seat? In Cadman's old Surrey riding? BTW: Was that idiot banned? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which one ? Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Kiraly Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 BTW: Was that idiot banned? I'm still here. Quote
tml12 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 BTW: Was that idiot banned? I'm still here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I meant that idiot who was posting all that crap. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
tml12 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Let's compare these results to 2004.Starting out in BC. So much for the historic breakthrough for the Liberals. Let's say the CPC lose two seats. The Liberals lose one. The NDs pick up three and the Green breakthrough for one. (Cadman's seat explains the discrepancy.) Prairies. The Conservatives pick up three seats altogether - sweeping AB and one more in MB. Everything else stays the same. Ontario is a wash. Same results as 2004. Québéc could see as many as 65 seats for the bloc with the other ten going Liberal. No regional results for the Atlantic provinces, so let's call it the same as 2004. National results. Liberals - 120 MPs. CPC - 100 MPs BQ - 65 MPs NDs - 22 MPs Green - 1 MP. That would definitely lead to both the Liberal and the CPC leaders retiring early in the year with respective leadership conventions held in 2006. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where do you see the one Green seat? In Cadman's old Surrey riding? BTW: Was that idiot banned? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which one ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not you guys Scarascar or whatever his name was Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
normanchateau Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Where do you see the one Green seat? In Cadman's old Surrey riding? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Before Cadman took the riding for Reform/Alliance, it was a NDP seat. In 2004, the NDP came a close second to Cadman with the Liberal and CPC candidates a distant third and fourth, respectively. Running this time for the NDP is a popular former cabinet minister who lives in the riding, spoke at Cadman's funeral and is a close friend of Cadman's widow. All local polls give the NDP the edge to recapture the seat. Quote
tml12 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Where do you see the one Green seat? In Cadman's old Surrey riding? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Before Cadman took the riding for Reform/Alliance, it was a NDP seat. In 2004, the NDP came a close second to Cadman with the Liberal and CPC candidates a distant third and fourth, respectively. Running this time for the NDP is a popular former cabinet minister who lives in the riding, spoke at Cadman's funeral and is a close friend of Cadman's widow. All local polls give the NDP the edge to recapture the seat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fair enough... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Kiraly Posted December 5, 2005 Report Posted December 5, 2005 Before Cadman took the riding for Reform/Alliance, it was a NDP seat. In 2004, the NDP came a close second to Cadman with the Liberal and CPC candidates a distant third and fourth, respectively. Running this time for the NDP is a popular former cabinet minister who lives in the riding, spoke at Cadman's funeral and is a close friend of Cadman's widow. All local polls give the NDP the edge to recapture the seat. Sounds about right.... ...where did you see these local polls? I live in the area and have not heard any local polling results. I am also curious to see the numbers in other Surrey ridings. Quote
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