do you think the worlds morality is slipping?

[DarkAngel_]

I've noticed some changes in peoples instinct of right and wrong, and it may be just opinion but it seems things are stirring up, what ever you think please answer in detail.

[PocketRocket]

It depends on what you consider "morality" to be.

Go back a century or so, and a woman wearing a skirt that showed anything above the ankle was considered immoral.

Back to the same time frame, and a kiss in public was the same.

What constituted "morality" a century ago would be considered overly stern by a priest nowadays.

Since you seem to want specific answers, it would pronbably be better to ask the question in more specific terms.

My take on morality is simple; if it doesn't hurt anyone else, knock yourself out.

(If what you're doing hurts YOU ALONE, and no one else, it's not immoral, just stupid)

[sharkman]

IMO, what goes to the heart of this is the question of absolutes. We historically held that many behaviours and attitudes that were considered wrong, period. And most people policed their own actions. Now there are none, and there are never enough police.

I had my car broken into twice in less than two years. An officer came the first time and suggested it wasn't worth having an aftermarket stereo. He said there was no point in trying to catch the criminal and get him before a judge, he'd get no punishment. This is because of situational ethics. The judge will reason that the criminal isn't fully responsible for his actions because he was raised in foster care or he's got fetal alcohol syndrome or he's addicted to drugs. So he's free to continue stealing and abusing himself indefinitely. Meanwhile, it cost me over $!000 to replace items not covered by insurance.

[Montgomery Burns]

IMO, what goes to the heart of this is the question of absolutes.  We historically held that many behaviours and attitudes that were considered wrong, period.  And most people policed their own actions.  Now there are none, and there are never enough police. 

I had my car broken into twice in less than two years.  An officer came the first time and suggested it wasn't worth having an aftermarket stereo.  He said there was no point in trying to catch the criminal and get him before a judge, he'd get no punishment.  This is because of situational ethics.  The judge will reason that the criminal isn't fully responsible for his actions because he was raised in foster care or he's got fetal alcohol syndrome or he's addicted to drugs.  So he's free to continue stealing and abusing himself indefinitely.  Meanwhile, it cost me over $!000 to replace items not covered by insurance.

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Tell me about it. I live in the Robbery Capital of North America (well, at least the US and Canadian part of NA). The brutal grinding poverty of Calvert's Cuba is destroying this province. I had my bike stolen twice in 2 months. There are gangs running wild throughout this city-with no cops in sight - because the province lacks the 200 cops the NDP promised that they would hire--my city would get about 45 of those cops. We have people being murdered at 5:30 PM in front of the biggest mall in the city. I make sure I am ALWAYS armed when I go downtown in the evening. I defy anyone to walk in the "hood" in my city at nightime. You will likely be beaten half to death and there will be no cops in sight.

But the NDP has more important priorities. Our total utility bill is about $10/month less than Alberta's. Woo hoo. We're better than Alberta--according to the NDP.

When the province's conservative party complains about 17 y/o boys being murdered in the Premier's riding for a frickin' ballcap, the NDP and the media, who gets millions from SIGA, claim that this is "fearmongering".

After all, the murderer is a "victim of society". Ergo, he is encouraged to go out and commit more crime on the Evil White People Who Stole This Country 150 years ago.

I'm not English nor French, but I am still white. Therefore, it appears I deserve to live in a society full of non-white criminals. If I complain, I am a "racist".

And if I complain, I am worried that I will be hauled in front of one of those "Human Rights Commissions" like so many Canadians that have suffered from the totalitarianism of the Liberal govt for "hate speech".

What the hell has happened to this once great country?

Freedom of speech is being eroded in this country. MPs being hauled in front of "Human Rights Commissions" for daring to send pamphlets stating that Native Indian crime is rampant--an absolute fact. Don't get me wrong. Many natives are good hardworking citizens trying to fight the "welfare system" advocated by the left. However, it is an undisputed fact that natives commit more crimes than non-natives.

Preachers being hauled in front of "Human Rights Commissions" for daring to espouse the Bible's negativity towards gay "marriage".

School teachers being suspended for writing a letter to the editor of a newspaper (after hours) claiming their support for the 2000 year old definition of marriage.

People being fined for going out of their way to whisper "watch him, he's a fifi (French slang for homosexual)". Yes, he whispered it to one guy and the guy told the "fifi" what was said, and the original guy got hauled before the courts and was fined $1500.

Canada has language police running around measuring signs to make sure that French lettering is larger than English lettering. If you are found guilty, you are subject to a fine of up to $7000!

I am no fan of the ACLU, but if you ever tried to pull that cultural discrimination "language police" bullshit in the USA, the ACLU would frickin' go to WAR against you.

I am very worried about Canada's future.

How come Canada doesn't get to vote for Supreme Court judges--like they do in the USA?

How come Canadians don't get to vote for radical social-engineering like gay marriage, like they do in the US (11 states voted no--Oregon was the closest (57% against and Missippi was teh furthest at 88% against)? After all, Canadians are against changing the 2000 year definition (we're just not "progressive" enough ) of marriage.

It was very embarrassing when Bush gave a rousing speech about freedom. liberty, democracy, and fighting totalitarianism...and then a couple of days later, PM Paul "we lead the world" Martin announces the most important thing in the world to him--gay marriage.

Good grief.

[jonah]

I've noticed some changes in peoples instinct of right and wrong, and it may be just opinion but it seems things are stirring up, what ever you think please answer in detail.

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how so..re instinct..is it not an auto response

yet choice betwween right is a power/wrong

an automaticly powerful right or wr..perhaps

your opinion stirs my mind to ask.for why..i long ago run out of new question long ago

ps thought i saw you as a new member if so

welcome ..if not

thank you for the stir-ring

an.swear in de-tail o the dark angle

[jonah]

It depends on what you consider "morality" to be.

Go back a century or so, and a woman wearing a skirt that showed anything above the ankle was considered immoral.

Back to the same time frame, and a kiss in public was the same.

What constituted "morality" a century ago would be considered overly stern by a priest nowadays.

Since you seem to want specific answers, it would pronbably be better to ask the question in more specific terms.

My take on morality is simple; if it doesn't hurt anyone else, knock yourself out.

(If what you're doing hurts YOU ALONE, and no one else, it's not immoral, just stupid)

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moraity ..to be or not to be ?

..to build on others foundation,,

what indeed constitutes the..moral..

..more-real-all-try... to be .sorry ..happy fore giving ..grace full

..moral tie..greatfull....the moralty i didnt note us on its previous post

just saying hi..thanking all

[Virgil]

I don't think people have ever really been morally right. But I suppose I concur with what Pocket Rocket said.

[moderateamericain]

Its funny this topic came up, the other day i was working with someone's account and he sent his wife in to negotiate for him, obviously his wife cannot sign a legally binding contract, and after explaining that to her, she proceded to tell me "well i could just have one of my sons call you and say he is his daddy." Now the real kicker is she was a Parrish (i think thats what the word is) at a church, her husband was the preacher.

So here we have a family of church going people telling me they would commit fraud.

Moral decay? i would say yes.