robosmith Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: The senate was controlled by people as ill upstairs as Hillary. And according to several news clippings at the time a guy manafort knew gave the polling data. Not that it's reliable... the news media has said alot of bat shiy crazy nonsense over the past few years... So that's a no, you never read the REPUBLICAN LED Senate Intel Committee report Quote Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska, and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik or with whom Kilimnik further shared that information. The Committee had limited insight into Kilimnik's communications with Manafort and into Kilimnik's communications with other individuals connected to Russian influence operations, all of whom used communications security practices. The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election. Beginning while he was Campaign chairman and continuing until at least 2018, Manafor discussed with Kilimnik a peace plan for eastern Ukraine that benefitted the Kremlin. After the election, Manafort continued to coordinate with Russian persons, particularly Kilimnik and other individuals close to Deripaska, in an effort to undertake activities on their behalf. Manafort worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on narratives that sought to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in .the 2016 U.S. election. That is textbook collusion whether you understand it or not. Talk about "ill." Quote
West Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: So that's a no, you never read the REPUBLICAN LED Senate Intel Committee report That is textbook collusion whether you understand it or not. Talk about "ill." "A longtime associate of former President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign chief Paul Manafort gave Russian intelligence agencies "sensitive information" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/15/trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-employee-kilimnik-gave-russia-election-data.html You folks can't even keep up with your own conspiracy theories So basically you admit the fbi never investigated any real crimes only served as a publicly funded opposition research firm on behalf of democrats. . Talk about rigged elections Edited October 14, 2022 by West Quote
robosmith Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, West said: "A longtime associate of former President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign chief Paul Manafort gave Russian intelligence agencies "sensitive information" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/15/trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-employee-kilimnik-gave-russia-election-data.html You folks can't even keep up with your own conspiracy theories Senate Intel Committee REPORT: Quote On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. Sorry the actual report trumps ANY news source. Esp YOUR BROKEN LINK. But thanks for confirming that Kilimnik shared the data with Russian Intelligence. Edited October 14, 2022 by robosmith Quote
West Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, robosmith said: Senate Intel Committee REPORT: Sorry the actual report trumps ANY news source. Esp YOUR BROKEN LINK. But thanks for confirming that Kilimnik shared the data with Russian Intelligence. First of all the link works just fine. Nice try. Secondly you are again missing key talking points of the delusion. Manafort didn't share it with kilminak.. a person he knew did.. for all we know Hillary was running Russian spies into the Trump Campaign.. seems more likely given the following: 1. The lady who was involved in the Trump tower meeting was on the payroll of Fusion GPS, the firm Crooked used to spy on the Trump Campaign and produce a report full of lies. And 2. The vice presidents son, Hunter Biden, was getting an unusually large sum of cash to sit on an energy board of a Russian energy firm 3. Manafort worked with Podesta's brother for many years. Edited October 14, 2022 by West Quote
robosmith Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, West said: First of all the link works just fine. Nice try. Secondly you are again missing key talking points of the delusion. Manafort didn't share it with kilminak.. a person he knew did.. for all we know Hillary was running Russian spies into the Trump Campaign.. seems more likely given the following: Your cite: Quote A longtime associate of former President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign chief Paul Manafort gave Russian intelligence agencies “sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy” during the election that year, the U.S. Treasury Department said. Manafort’s associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, “also sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the department said Thursday as the Biden administration announced new sanctions on Russia, Kilimnik and others. Those sanctions relate in part to Russia’s alleged effort to affect the outcome of the 2020 U.S. presidential election. Says Manafort's associate WAS Kilimnik 18 minutes ago, West said: 1. The lady who was involved in the Trump tower meeting was on the payroll of Fusion GPS, the firm Crooked used to spy on the Trump Campaign and produce a report full of lies. And You mean Natalia Veselnitskaya the RUSSIAN LAWYER who was close to the Kremlin? Lawyer Who Was Said to Have Dirt on Clinton Had Closer Ties to Kremlin Than She Let On Quote But newly released emails show that in at least one instance two years earlier, the lawyer, Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, worked hand in glove with Russia’s chief legal office to thwart a Justice Department civil fraud case against a well-connected Russian firm. Ms. Veselnitskaya also appears to have recanted her earlier denials of Russian government ties. During an interview to be broadcast Friday by NBC News, she acknowledged that she was not merely a private lawyer but a source of information for a top Kremlin official, Yuri Y. Chaika, the prosecutor general. 18 minutes ago, West said: 2. The vice presidents son, Hunter Biden, was getting an unusually large sum of cash to sit on an energy board of a Russian energy firm You mean Ukranian firm Burisma? So what? That has NOTHING to do with Hillary and the 2016 election. 18 minutes ago, West said: 3. Manafort worked with Podesta's brother for many years. So what? He worked for oligarch Oleg Deripaska for many years, too. And Putin puppet Janukovych. Nice TRY. NOT. Quote
West Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your cite: Says Manafort's associate WAS Kilimnik You mean Natalia Veselnitskaya the RUSSIAN LAWYER who was close to the Kremlin? Lawyer Who Was Said to Have Dirt on Clinton Had Closer Ties to Kremlin Than She Let On You mean Ukranian firm Burisma? So what? That has NOTHING to do with Hillary and the 2016 election. So what? He worked for oligarch Oleg Deripaska for many years, too. And Putin puppet Janukovych. Nice TRY. NOT. The Russian lawyer that was on fusions payroll.. yes.. and Manafort worked with Tony Podesta.. Not to mention Hunter Biden raking in big on the payroll of a corrupt Russian energy firm All these Democrat connections to Russia makes yoh wonder if they were in fact the ones getting handsy with Russia Quote
robosmith Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, West said: The Russian lawyer that was on fusions payroll.. yes.. and Manafort worked with Tony Podesta.. Not to mention Hunter Biden raking in big on the payroll of a corrupt Russian energy firm All these Democrat connections to Russia makes yoh wonder if they were in fact the ones getting handsy with Russia Fusion is NOT "Democratic official." nor politician. And Burisma is Ukrainian, NOT Russian. And Hunter is NOT a politician NOR an employee of one. So what if Manafort worked with TONY? He's NOT a Democratic official like his BROTHER was. Don't strain your back with all your STRETCHING. Three plus strikes and YOU'RE OUT. ? Edited October 14, 2022 by robosmith Quote
West Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: Fusion is NOT "Democratic official." nor politician. And Burisma is Ukrainian, NOT Russian. And Hunter is NOT a politician NOR an employee of one. So what if Manafort worked with TONY? He's NOT a Democratic official like his BROTHER was. Don't strain your back with all your STRETCHING. Three plus strikes and YOU'RE OUT. ? Fusion was the firm used by Hillary Clinton to dig up dirt.. if you want to say Trump colluded because Manafort knew a Russian once and Sessions' job was meeting with ambassadors from foreign countries, you should also apply it to your side. You obviously refuse to connect the dots. The US system is built on selling access to politicians thru family members. There's no other good explanation for why Hunter Biden was working for a Russian oligarch Edited October 14, 2022 by West Quote
robosmith Posted October 14, 2022 Report Posted October 14, 2022 49 minutes ago, West said: Fusion was the firm used by Hillary Clinton to dig up dirt.. if you want to say Trump colluded because Manafort knew a Russian once and Sessions' job was meeting with ambassadors from foreign countries, you should also apply it to your side. You obviously refuse to connect the dots. The US system is built on selling access to politicians thru family members. There's no other good explanation for why Hunter Biden was working for a Russian oligarch Just because you IMAGINE the "US system is built on selling access to" something, does NOT make it true. The fact is, any such corruption is totally dependent on the people involved, and there's no evidence Joe Biden did ANY favors for Burisma or Ukraine. If Burisma's owners want to GAMBLE their money on Hunter's connections delivering them favors, that is THEIR BUSINESS, not PROOF that anything unethical HAPPENED. You need to prove your ASSUMPTIONS. Until then: ? Quote
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