Canadian politics dysfunctional?

[Leafless]

Here we have the latest Decima poll that puts Liberals at 33%, Conservatives at 30% and the NDP at 20%--conducted Nov. 3rd to 7th.

In Ontario though the Liberals have an eight-point lead over the Tories in vote rich Ontario.

Liberal Socialistic policies it seems have won the support of immigrants especially in the Toronto area creating an uneven playing field. Any Canadian that is in the lower income bracket will probably vote Liberal.

This same situation it appears is prevalant in Quebec and the Maritimes.

The Bloc is a Party that really serves no purpose in federal politics than to steal votes from the Liberal who simply turn around and throw more tax payer money at Quebec until they aquire more seats like they have done with their latest transfer and equalization and asymmetrical offerings.

Has this created a socialistic Liberal stranglehold that favours minorities and gives minorities a Liberal identity that simply relates to minority favourtism and ignores Canada as a country of Canadians? How can political Parties like the Conservatives and the NDP ever stand a chance with this Liberal Party continually buying votes with taxpayers money under the guise of equality.

The Liberals at the moment are doing poorly in Quebec But it will only be a matter of time and tax payers money before the Liberals buy off Quebecers and are returned to a majority.

Is this the end of Canadian politics as we know it and as Canada already been transformed into a dictatorial state with other political parties simply going through the motions as part of a legitimate politcal system simply because there is no other way to describe or do anything concerning this Liberal socialistic stranglehold?

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Here we have the latest Decima poll that puts Liberals at 33%, Conservatives at 30% and the NDP at 20%--conducted Nov. 3rd to 7th.

Liberal Socialistic policies it seems have won the support of immigrants especially in the Toronto area creating an uneven playing field. Any Canadian that is in the lower income bracket will probably vote Liberal.

People have come to recognize who the Cons. represent. If you'll look at the Canadian population, it turns out that the Cons. policies represent between 1 and 10% of the population (the wealthiest sector).

It's not just recent immigrants that make up the majority of Canadians.

Funny how you are desperate to blame anybody but the Cons. for their poor showing in the polls... Perhaps it is their policies that are keeping them from power, rather than the recent immigrants.....

If you're really looking for who to blame for the Cons. lack of popularity, I'll give you two suggestions:

1) Brian Mulroney, and everything he did

2) Steven Harper, and everything he promises to do...

Has this created a socialistic Liberal stranglehold that favours minorities and gives minorities a Liberal identity that simply relates to minority favourtism and ignores Canada as a country of Canadians? How can political Parties like the Conservatives and the NDP ever stand a chance with this Liberal Party continually buying votes with taxpayers money under the guise of equality.

The Liberals try to sound socialistic before elections to win the popular vote, but then, actualy govern as Conservatives. In the last election campaign, Martin was begging NDP supporters help, saying "We're not so different".... but the truth is, that todays Liberals govern as Conservatives, and todays Cons. promise to govern of the far right hand side of the spectrum.... Canadians don't want that...

Is this the end of Canadian politics as we know it and as Canada already been transformed into a dictatorial state with other political parties simply going through the motions as part of a legitimate politcal system simply because there is no other way to describe or do anything concerning this Liberal socialistic stranglehold?

No... The Right went so far further to the right that they fell off the table.... So the Liberals and the NDP are about all that's left on the table..

[August1991]

Is this the end of Canadian politics as we know it and as Canada already been transformed into a dictatorial state with other political parties simply going through the motions as part of a legitimate politcal system simply because there is no other way to describe or do anything concerning this Liberal socialistic stranglehold?

More or less true.

Quebec politics have become utterly obsessed by the National Question over the past 30 years. This "infection" has now passed into Canadian federal politics and the result is the current federal Liberal Party.

Despite all the evidence, most English-Canadian commentators prefer to ignore the obvious fact that dealing with Quebec has come to dominate insidiously federal politics.

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Is this the end of Canadian politics as we know it and as Canada already been transformed into a dictatorial state with other political parties simply going through the motions as part of a legitimate politcal system simply because there is no other way to describe or do anything concerning this Liberal socialistic stranglehold?

More or less true.

I'd say LESS.

Dictatorial.... get a grip... You can vote for whomever you wish...

Mark Emery could very well think the same way you do... because his party has even less chance of getting elected than the Cons. do .... But even he has a closer grip on reality than you obviously do, because at least he understands that his policies are not acceptable by most Canadians.

Quebec politics have become utterly obsessed by the National Question over the past 30 years.  This "infection" has now passed into Canadian federal politics and the result is the current federal Liberal Party.

Under Brian Mulroney, the Cons. fell into pretty meech the same situation.... It is not uniquely a Liberal problem... but nice try...

[Leafless]

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You wrote- " If your really looking for blame for the Cons. lack of popularity I'll give you two suggestion:

1) Brian Mulroney and everything he did

2) Stephen Harper and everthing he promises to do."

Brian Mulroney a Prime Minister from Quebec is not my idea of a true Conservative PM although through no fault of his own was trapped catering to Quebec regional (national) political concerns if he was to remain a viable alternative for Quebec which adds partially to my dysfunctional claim pertaining to Canadian politics.

Basically what Mr. Mulroney did was for the betterment of Canada by selling off

money losing crown corporations as Paul Martin did with selling off the remaining Air-Canada shares in 2004.

A lot of Quebecers still think that Meech was the way to go despite it's failure.

The implenmentation of NAFTA again was done for Quebecers as well as Canada and has helped entrench a permanent trade realtions with the U.S.

But no matter what you consider what Mr. Mulroney has done the Liberals have had twlelve years to turn things around . Have they?

Criticizing Mr. Harper is pointless as he as not yet served as PM and simply wishes to govern with a more democratic approach rather than dictatorial.

The point of the matter is tax payers cannot forever continue to fuel a system that corporate Canada should be fullfilling and provinces and individuals who should be trying harder to be self sustaining rather than continual trying to blame Canada for it's employment and financial woes.

The Liberals have created a condition (along with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms) that makes many Canadians dependent on Liberalism that is totally unjust to other Canadian national political Parties.

This conditon requires immediate electoral reforms as it is totally illogical to expect all political Parties to cater and compete only on a socialistic level bypassing a more desirable democratic political system could eventually have irrereversable devastating effects on Canada and Canadians.

[fellowtraveller]

Is this the end of Canadian politics as we know it and as Canada already been transformed into a dictatorial state with other political parties simply going through the motions as part of a legitimate politcal system simply because there is no other way to describe or do anything concerning this Liberal socialistic stranglehold?

It is not the end of politcs, but Canada has long been a country that is run by the Prime Ministers Office. It is that simple.

Not only are the Opposition Parties and the Senate irrelevant, the rank and file of Liberal MPs serve only to rubber stamp the decsions made by the PMO.

The possibility of federal reform is made imposssible by the structure of our much ballyhooed Constitution, and reinforced by the unwillingness of Ontario and Quebec to initiate reform, each for different and selfish reasons.

Our country is now passing, largely unnoticed, into the realm of separation.

Quebec will be gone within 24 months, perhaps less. The aftermath will be the next opportunity for major reform of the leftovers.

The sad part is that we have no federalist national leadership, none, that will even identify this as a looming issue. They are too busy arguing about election dates, and we can expect Mr. Martin and his opponents to spend their time in the campaign arguing the details of things that do not matter.

Nero fiddles while Rome burns........

[I Miss Trudeau]

Is this the end of Canadian politics as we know it and as Canada already been transformed into a dictatorial state with other political parties simply going through the motions as part of a legitimate politcal system simply because there is no other way to describe or do anything concerning this Liberal socialistic stranglehold?

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Translation: "Most people don't agree with me, and I never get my way, so it must be a dictatorship."

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Translation, I Miss Trudeau is a sad, sad, sad ideologue who cannot engage in actual conversation or actual think of a reason to keep his pathetic, corrupt Liberals in government. I know they stole $1.14 Million, but they aren't scary.

Translation: "Most people don't agree with me, and I never get my way, so it must be a dictatorship."

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Translation, I Miss Trudeau is a sad, sad, sad ideologue who cannot engage in actual conversation or actual think of a reason to keep his pathetic, corrupt Liberals in government. I know they stole $1.14 Million, but they aren't scary. 

Translation: "Most people don't agree with me, and I never get my way, so it must be a dictatorship."

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Are you implying that he really misses Trudeau???