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WorldNetDaily: Analyst says Joe Wilson 'outed' wife in 2002, disclosed in casual conversations a year before Robert Novak column

Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely told WorldNetDaily that Wilson mentioned Plame's status as a CIA operative in at least three, possibly five, separate conversations in 2002 in the Fox News Channel's "green room" in Washington, D.C., as they waited to appear on air as analysts.

Vallely and Wilson both were contracted by Fox News to discuss the war on terror as the U.S. faced off with Iraq in the run-up to the spring 2003 invasion.

Vallely says, according to his recollection, the first time Wilson mentioned his wife's job was around February or March of 2002 – more than a year before Robert Novak's July 14, 2003, column identified her, citing senior administration officials, as "an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction."

"He was rather open about his wife working at the CIA," said Vallely, who retired in 1991 as the Army's deputy commanding general in the Pacific.

Vallely said, citing CIA colleagues, that in addition to his conversations with Wilson, the ambassador was proud to introduce Plame at cocktail parties and other social events around Washington as his CIA wife.

"That was pretty common knowledge," he said. "She's been out there on the Washington scene many years."

If Plame were a covert agent at the time, Vallely said, "he would not have paraded her around as he did."

Joe Wilson suing WorldNetDaily and Vallely for slander:

A demand letter was sent by Christopher Wolf, partner at Proskauer Rose LLP and counsel for Wilson, to both Vallely and WND tonight.

It disputes Vallely's claim that Wilson mentioned Valerie Plame's status with the CIA in conversations in 2002 in the Fox News Channel's "green room" in Washington as they waited to appear as analysts.

"As you know, that assertion and the claim that Ambassador Wilson revealed to you or to anyone that his wife worked for the CIA is patently false, and subjects you and anyone publishing your statements to legal liability," states the letter.

It continues: "We are writing to demand that you immediately retract the assertion attributed to you and to insist that you stop making the false allegation. In addition, we request that you identify all persons or entitites (sic) to whom you made any claim that Ambassador Wilson revealed his wife's employment at the CIA to you."

But Vallely doesn't seem to be too worried:

"I think he's panicked that somebody is going to take him on," said Vallely tonight. "He can make statements, and yet he's not brought in under oath."

[...]

"He was a total self promoter," said Vallely. "I don't know if it was out of insecurity, to make him feel important, but he's created so much turmoil, he needs to be investigated and put under oath."

Put under oath. I'd love to see that. Hehe. :)

More and more people come out to support Vallely's claim, including Victor Davis Hanson

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Put Joe Wilson under oath...

After all, we know - though the liberal media rarely brings this up - that the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously found that Wilson lied when he said Dick Cheney had sent him on the mission, lied when he denied his wife had recommended him for it and lied when he said he'd found no evidence Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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But Vallely doesn't seem to be too worried

Why would he be? It's he said/he said. In other words, a license to lie, so his "being worried" or "not being worried" should really only matter to those fools who accept one side or another, unthining, because it fits their particular prejudices.

Put under oath. I'd love to see that.

Sure. I'm all for that. Right after Vallely is for his claims, G.W. Bush is for his pre-war claims, and a host of other liars from inside the Washington beltway.

After all, we know - though the liberal media rarely brings this up - that the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously found that Wilson lied when he said Dick Cheney had sent him on the mission, lied when he denied his wife had recommended him for it and lied when he said he'd found no evidence Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

Do we know that?

Cite your source, and I'll find it mildly interesting, if it is better than Rush Limbaugh or FOX News, I might even find the report credible. If he lied to congress under oath, he'd have been charged... the absence of such a charge makes me wonder about your veracity more than his at this point.

Of course, if since he hasn't, and a member of the Bush administration has, I think what is "known" and "verified" is quite a bit different from what you are representing.

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Wow. Suddenly, they're just crawling out of the woordwork.

What I wonder, though, is why they've all been holding out so long and allowed poor Scooter and Turdblossom to get worked over by that mean old Fitzgerald. I'm sure the special prosecuter would interested to know why these fellows haven't come forward with these revalations before. Maybe the FBI could pay them a visit?

After all, we know - though the liberal media rarely brings this up - that the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously found that Wilson lied when he said Dick Cheney had sent him on the mission, lied when he denied his wife had recommended him for it and lied when he said he'd found no evidence Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

Wilson never said that Cheney sent him, only that the vice president’s office had questions about an intelligence report that referred to the sale of uranium yellowcake to Iraq from Niger. CIA officials were informed of Cheney’s questions. "The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president’s office," Wilson wrote in July.

Also, Wilson's claims that Iraq did not attempt to buy uranium have held up for two years. The final Iraq Survey Group report concluded, “ISG has uncovered no information to support allegations of Iraqi pursuit of uranium from abroad in the post-Operation Desert Storm era.”

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But Vallely doesn't seem to be too worried

Why would he be? It's he said/he said. In other words, a license to lie, so his "being worried" or "not being worried" should really only matter to those fools who accept one side or another, unthining, because it fits their particular prejudices.

Put under oath. I'd love to see that.

Sure. I'm all for that. Right after Vallely is for his claims, G.W. Bush is for his pre-war claims, and a host of other liars from inside the Washington beltway.

After all, we know - though the liberal media rarely brings this up - that the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously found that Wilson lied when he said Dick Cheney had sent him on the mission, lied when he denied his wife had recommended him for it and lied when he said he'd found no evidence Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

Do we know that?

Cite your source, and I'll find it mildly interesting, if it is better than Rush Limbaugh or FOX News, I might even find the report credible. If he lied to congress under oath, he'd have been charged... the absence of such a charge makes me wonder about your veracity more than his at this point.

Of course, if since he hasn't, and a member of the Bush administration has, I think what is "known" and "verified" is quite a bit different from what you are representing.

Okay. Fox News and Rush Limbaugh are off limits because, of course, all rightwingers are liars (only CBC and the NY Times tell the Pure Truth *snicker*), but how about this?....

Why are the DU rejects so incapable of using a search engine - ANY search engine?

Joe Wilson lied

Joe Wilson lied

Joe Wilson lied (from the liberal Wapo)

Joe Wilson lied

The Senate Intelligence Committee snapped that reed when it issued its report on prewar intelligence in July of last year. The committee found unanimously that Mr. Wilson lied when he said Mr. Cheney had sent him on the mission, lied when he denied his wife had recommended him for it and lied when he said he'd found no evidence Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

Isn't it amazing how the left lives in a cocoon?

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Robert Novak at Townhall,com

How big a secret was it? It was well known around Washington that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA. Republican activist Clifford May wrote Monday, in National Review Online, that he had been told of her identity by a non-government source before my column appeared and that it was common knowledge. Her name, Valerie Plame, was no secret either, appearing in Wilson's "Who's Who in America" entry.

Clifford May at National Review

On July 14, Robert Novak wrote a column in the Post and other newspapers naming Mr. Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA operative.

That wasn't news to me. I had been told that — but not by anyone working in the White House. Rather, I learned it from someone who formerly worked in the government and he mentioned it in an offhand manner, leading me to infer it was something that insiders were well aware of.

Washington Times:

A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee.

"She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.

"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this. A lot of blame could be put on to central cover staff and the agency because they weren't minding the store here. ... The agency never changed her cover status."

WorldNetDaily:

"Former Time magazine correspondent Hugh Sidey told the New York Sun in a story published Sunday. "[Plame's] name was knocking around in the sub rosa world we live in for a long time."

NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell, in an appearance on CNBC's "Capitol Report," Oct. 3, 2003, was asked how widely it was known in Washington that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA.

"It was widely known among those of us who cover the intelligence community and who were actively engaged in trying to track down who among the foreign service community was the envoy to Niger," she said."

Brit Hume:

Retired Army General and FOX News contributor Paul Vallely says he knew former ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife Valerie Plame was a CIA agent long before she was outed in a newspaper column in 2003 because Wilson told him so. Vallely says Wilson volunteered the information in at least three separate conversations while both men were waiting to appear on FOX News programs during the fall of 2002."

Valerie Plame/Wilson was obviously a not-so-secret agent.

It's me to put this serial liar under oath!

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Why are the DU rejects so incapable of using a search engine - ANY search engine?

Even Google?

If Google is the breadth of your cranium, then who I am I to complain?

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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What I wonder, though, is why they've all been holding out so long and allowed poor Scooter and Turdblossom to get worked over by that mean old Fitzgerald. I'm sure the special prosecuter would interested to know why these fellows haven't come forward with these revalations before. Maybe the FBI could pay them a visit?
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Wilson outed his wife, which is exactly why there was no charge related to that crime in relation to the Fitzgerald investigation. The libs lost.

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Not to worry, Joe Wilson WILL be put under oath...

Now that "Scooter" Libby has been indicted (no, NOT for "outing" Valerie Plame, but for "perjury" and making false statements [big whoop]), my guess is (since he has pleaded NOT GUILTY) that his attorney(s) WILL be calling Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, Robert Novak, Vice-President Richard Cheney, and ALL those reporters who were “involved” with the story to testify IN COURT (under oath) as to “what they knew, and when they knew it – and who they told, what”…

I can’t wait!

I wonder if Joe Wilson’s story will change (yet again) when he is under oath (amazing how different one’s recollection is when PERJURY is looming over every word one utters)...

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Dear wardmd,

Now that "Scooter" Libby has been indicted (no, NOT for "outing" Valerie Plame, but for "perjury" and making false statements [big whoop]), my guess is (since he has pleaded NOT GUILTY) that his attorney(s) WILL be calling Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, Robert Novak, Vice-President Richard Cheney, and ALL those reporters who were “involved” with the story to testify IN COURT (under oath) as to “what they knew, and when they knew it – and who they told, what”…
I don't think we'll see a whole lot of revelations if all of them are 'put under oath', there are wasy around telling the truth. (for all of them, including Wilson)

First, there is the 'Ronald Reagan defense'..."President? I don't remember being President..."

Then, there is the 'Oliver North defence' (as coached by CIA director Bill Casey) "To the best of my recollection, I did nothing wrong, because I am a good American, and good Americans don't do anything wrong, to the best of my recollection".

Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?

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Now that "Scooter" Libby has been indicted (no, NOT for "outing" Valerie Plame, but for "perjury" and making false statements [big whoop]),

So, just to be clear, perjury to a grand jury was good enough to get Clinton impeached, but when it's a G.O.P hack on the line, it's no big whoop?

Wilson outed his wife, which is exactly why there was no charge related to that crime in relation to the Fitzgerald investigation. The libs lost

Fitzgerald hasn't even wrapped up his investigation yet, not has Scooter even gone to trial: surely, given the litany of failures of this administration, that you Bush syncophants would learn to shut your traps until the case is closed.

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"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Black Dog:

So, just to be clear, perjury to a grand jury was good enough to get Clinton impeached, but when it's a G.O.P hack on the line, it's no big whoop?

It's still wrong, but I do not think it is as important when someone no one has heard of perjures himself versus the President perjuring himself - on TV - to the population of the USA..

Do you think Libby (allegedly) lying to impede the investiagation is as important as Clinton going on TV and perjuring himself to the American people?

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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