Has Justin Trudeau ever said anything good about Canada?

[Argus]

32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Actually they do because their rejecting the motion to recognize its existence is what people see and it makes them think their other CO2 strategies are just BS.

Their CO2 strategies ARE just bullshit. Just like the Liberals' CO2 strategies.

[Aristides]

13 minutes ago, Argus said:

Their CO2 strategies ARE just bullshit. Just like the Liberals' CO2 strategies.

Do they want to form a government or not? It seems they don't.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Do they want to form a government or not? It seems they don't.

People who care a lot about climate change are voting Green or NDP anyway. Maybe some vote Liberal, but those aren't the committed ones.

Remember that saying you want to do something about climate change isn't the same as saying you're willing to pay much to do something about climate change.

[Aristides]

Just now, Argus said:

People who care a lot about climate change are voting Green or NDP anyway. Maybe some vote Liberal, but those aren't the committed ones.

Remember that saying you want to do something about climate change isn't the same as saying you're willing to pay much to do something about climate change.

Carry on, enjoy being in permanent opposition.

[cougar]

4 hours ago, Argus said:

The problem with laudable goals is that they sound nice in general and then turn to ruin when you go for specifics.

You think there is no country that survived for 100 years without increasing its population?

[Argus]

15 hours ago, cougar said:

You think there is no country that survived for 100 years without increasing its population?

I'm not one of those who bellies it's in our interest to increase our population. But I suspect your goals are considerably more complicated than that. Sustainability means what, exactly?

Edited April 4, 2021 by Argus

[cougar]

43 minutes ago, Argus said:

Sustainability means what, exactly?

It means you recognize the right of everything else out there to exists and come up with a model where you leave their property intact.  You figure out how many humans can coexist on how many square kilometers with how many of the other species and you stick to that number.  You do not invade and convert more wildlife habitat into garbage dumps.

You understand how the forests work and you do not disturb more than 10% of the old growth forests.  The rest is there to regulate the climate.

You understand that this fucking chocolate wrapper or plastic coffee cup you used for one second can be out there in the ditch for a century after you are gone and you do not make it!

Sustainability is when you know that what is out there , as far as you are concerned, will continue to be out there for every future generation.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, cougar said:

Sustainability is when you know that what is out there , as far as you are concerned, will continue to be out there for every future generation.

Canada's forests tend to be fairly responsibly managed, as they are in the US. They'll still e there for future generations. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be opening mines, especially those where we can get rare earth minerals.