stubblejumper Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Why is it that when Ralph Klein announces that the surplus is going to larger then expected due to oil revenues. He lauded by the business community,Taxpayers Fed,etc. BUT when the NDP gov't in Sask announces the windfall they are critized for conservative budgeting, as are the feds currently. Isn't that just good business sense, why is King Ralph a good guy for it but Calvert is portaryed as inept for it. It seems confusing ? Can anyone clear this up for me ? Quote
Cameron Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Can you provide a link regarding the criticism? I've never heard of the Sask. gov't being criticized about budgets... Quote Economic Left/Right: 3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26 I want to earn money and keep the majority of it.
mirror Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Simple. The right wing Saskatchewn Party (read: Grant Devine & the Cons) in cahoots with the corporate press spend their life attacking the social democratic Calvert government. So what else is new. In Alberta of course the corporate media is in love with the capitalist Klein government. Quote
Rambler Man Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Well in Klein's case I think the deal was that they designed the budget for $30 dollar oil or in that area. After the budget was already in place the price of oil went way, way up and the huge surplus is a result of that. The other governments in question are being accused of deliberately taxing more then they spend, keeping taxpayer's money unfairly as a result. Quote
mcqueen625 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 In New Brunswick the person touted as a replacement for the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada, Bernard Lord climbs into bed with Kenneth Irving, and passes legislation which virtually gives Irving Oil a 25 year Property Tax holiday on the newly announced LNG Terminal Project in the Bay of Fundy. Out of the other side of his mouth he publically condemns a similar project for the State of Maine, only a few Kilometer away. I wonder why that is? Sorry, it is because it would be in direct competition with Mr. Irving and his plans for Irving Oil, and everyone in New Brunswick at least knows how much the Irving's dislike competition. God help us all in New Brunswick if Bernard Lord gets elected to another term in office, because he has managed to literally destroy what healthcare we did have, and place our educational system at, or close to the bottom in performance ratings, while increasing every fee that he could lay his hands on, and some that he invented, all without calling them taxes. This rant is coming from someone who supported the P.C. candidate in the last two elections. Be assured that provincially I will be supporting his Liberal counterpart in the next election even though I have never voted Liberal in my life. PLEASE people of Canada, do not promote this disaster as a leader of anything, because he doesn't have the qualifications, unless arrogance and pomposity is your gage of good leadership material, because that is all he has going for him, brains and common sense seems to have abandoned him. Quote
Montgomery Burns Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 Simple. The right wing Saskatchewn Party (read: Grant Devine & the Cons) in cahoots with the corporate press spend their life attacking the social democratic Calvert government. So what else is new. In Alberta of course the corporate media is in love with the capitalist Klein government. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brad Wall is the leader of the Sask Party. Devine has nothing to do with the Sask Party. And the liberal-controlled media in Saskatchewan loves the far-left NDP, despite their persistent hostility to business (Sask has the highest corporate taxes in Canada) and their shameful expansion of govt, thereby creating more unionized govt jobs to soak the hardworking taxpayer. Just a couple of reasons why Saskatchewan loses so many of its young to Alberta. Quote "Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005. "Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.
fellowtraveller Posted September 8, 2005 Report Posted September 8, 2005 In Alberta of course the corporate media is in love with the capitalist Klein government. Rubbish. Both the main papers in Alberta -Edmonton Journal and Calgary Herald - are Liberal mouthpieces and always have been. They flay Klein at every opportunity. If no Opportunity comes by, their columnists create them. The Sun papers in both cities are fishwrapper, nobody actually reads them. Sounds like you've been reading the Grope and Flail and watching CBC for a little too long. Please assemble some facts before commenting. Thanks ever so much. Quote The government should do something.
Black Dog Posted September 8, 2005 Report Posted September 8, 2005 Please assemble some facts before commenting.Thanks ever so much. That this comes at the end of a fact-free post is why this post is the runner up for today's Irony Award (aka "The Alanis"). Quote
mirror Posted September 8, 2005 Report Posted September 8, 2005 Devine has nothing to do with the Sask Party. Saskatchewan Pary, Conservative Party, what's the difference? Many former Tory members and supporters now support the Saskatchewan Party.That's like saying Quebecers weren't voting for separation in the referendum because it didn't say that on the ballot? Everyone here knows they are one and the same party. Do you seriously think that the people in Saskatchewan will elect another party of that political persuasion after the Devine years? How many people in the Devine Conservative cabinet were sent to prison, and weren't they the most corrupt government that Canada has ever had? Quote
fellowtraveller Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 That this comes at the end of a fact-free post is why this post is the runner up for today's Facts: "Both the main papers in Alberta -Edmonton Journal and Calgary Herald - are Liberal mouthpieces and always have been. They flay Klein at every opportunity. If no Opportunity comes by, their columnists create them. The Sun papers in both cities are fishwrapper, nobody actually reads them." Quote The government should do something.
B. Max Posted September 11, 2005 Report Posted September 11, 2005 I don't know that much about the herald but the EJ is a leftwing rag that used to be worse than it is now and was at one time loosing its subscription base to the sun. However speaking of facts. Here are some good ones. http://www.petro-canada.ca/eng/prodserv/fuels/8737.htm Quote
apollo19 Posted September 11, 2005 Report Posted September 11, 2005 The good thing about living in a competitive society is that businesses and people must adapt to meet conditions -- in this case, reducing their dependence on oil and either using less of it or switching to alternative modes of transport. The governments shouldn't change their taxes on gas/diesel because in the end the industry and consumers will figure out their own way to solve the problem. Quote
Toro Posted September 11, 2005 Report Posted September 11, 2005 Do you seriously think that the people in Saskatchewan will elect another party of that political persuasion after the Devine years? How many people in the Devine Conservative cabinet were sent to prison, and weren't they the most corrupt government that Canada has ever had? Eventually, yes. The NDP will not run the province forever and the Saskatchewan Liberals have to be the most incompetent political party in the country. 19 were busted under Devine and I think either 4 or 6 went to prison. The Saskatchewan Party is essentially the Tory party in Saskatchewan. Quote "Canada is a country, not a sector. Remember that." - Howard Simons of Simons Research, giving advice to investors.
B. Max Posted September 11, 2005 Report Posted September 11, 2005 The good thing about living in a competitive society is that businesses and people must adapt to meet conditions -- in this case, reducing their dependence on oil and either using less of it or switching to alternative modes of transport. The governments shouldn't change their taxes on gas/diesel because in the end the industry and consumers will figure out their own way to solve the problem. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They most certainly should be taking the tax off gasoline and diesel. There are no feasible alternative modes of transportation. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 12, 2005 Report Posted September 12, 2005 "Both the main papers in Alberta -Edmonton Journal and Calgary Herald - are Liberal mouthpieces and always have been. They flay Klein at every opportunity. If no Opportunity comes by, their columnists create them. The Sun papers in both cities are fishwrapper, nobody actually reads them." The Edmonton Sun and its Calgary cousin are the furthest things imaginable from "Liberal mouthpieces". Ever read anything by Paul Jackson? And its pretty dishonest to cite columnists as evidence of a bias: columnists are suppossed to be biased. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 "The Edmonton Sun and its Calgary cousin are the furthest things imaginable from "Liberal mouthpieces" Your argument would be improved vastly if you actually read the post you are criticizing. I did not state the Sun papers in Alberta were Liberal mouthpieces. The main papers - Journal and Herald- are unquestionably that. I say again - nobody reads the SUNs, and their editorial content is generously described as laughable. "And its pretty dishonest to cite columnists as evidence of a bias: columnists are suppossed to be biased." Rubbish. It is a wholly legitimate criticism when one(1) conservative columnist (Lorne Gunter) is the 'balance' for an entire phalanx of Liberal butt-kissing columnists. Quote The government should do something.
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