China deliberately letting fentanyl flow to Canada

[Argus]

Stopping the import of fentanyl is almost impossible because Canada lacks the policing (we have among the lowest police per population in the western world) border agency agents (the budget has been cut year after year forever) and laws (it's almost impossible to get any cooperation from the courts). In addition, of course, our federal government is obsessed with trying to please China to get more trade with them, so is not about to stand up to them in any public, meaningful way. As a result, China is ignoring the fentanyl production and its shipment to Canada.

The opioid crisis and record-setting death counts caused by fentanyl flooding into Canada could get worse because of a growing diplomatic dispute with China, sources have informed Global News.Canadian law enforcement agencies have found that fentanyl and its chemical precursors are mostly produced in southern China factories and sent to North America via shipping containers, and in the mail. It’s a huge fight with China right now, and if you anger the Chinese they won’t work with you,” said a source, who could not be identified. “The fentanyl coming into Canada is going to get worse. Nothing will happen because we have to satisfy what they (the Chinese government) want.”

What China wants, is freedom in B.C. to pursue alleged corruption suspects and financial fugitives, including a suspect accused of absconding with about $1 billion from a Beijing company. The suspect is laundering the money in Vancouver real estate, a source said, and using Vancouver as a hub to launder dirty money around the world.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4658188/fentanyl-china-canada-diplomatic-tensions/

[Rue]

You are absolutely dead on with this topic. I know directly people in Vancouver  enforcement.  Dead on. Way high up it goes in the Party and our government when it comes to what is coming in and leaving our borders is past a joke whether it be people, drugs, weapons, intelligence in various technologies being sucked up by China illegally. 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

What China wants, is freedom in B.C. to pursue alleged corruption suspects and financial fugitives, including a suspect accused of absconding with about $1 billion from a Beijing company. The suspect is laundering the money in Vancouver real estate, a source said, and using Vancouver as a hub to launder dirty money around the world.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4658188/fentanyl-china-canada-diplomatic-tensions/

Notwithstanding the opioid issue, why not just let them have the thieving bastard?

Edited December 2, 2018 by bcsapper

[Argus]

14 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Notwithstanding the opioid issue, why not just let them have the thieving bastard?

Because we'd have to trust that they ARE thieving bastards. It's not like the Chinese Communists have any honesty or integrity. They will use such freedom to make accusations against anyone who has opposed the party, or whose family has. And we're supposed to give them up based on manufactured evidence?

And it's not like being a thieving bastard is actually against the rules over there. Their government is almost infinitely corrupt in every conceivable way, and so are all its senior bureaucrats and senior military officers. Which means when they come after someone for 'corruption' it's invariably over something else.

Edited December 2, 2018 by Argus

[cannuck]

What Westerners do not understand is the China is nothing but predatory in its business ambitions.  They will do whatever it takes to come out on top.  Things such as stealing IT is not some back room hacker kid out for jollies, it is a highly organized cadre of Red Army professional IT people hacking into every computer they can access in the world.  Trade some cheap drugs for cash and it is a win-win....for China.

Edited December 2, 2018 by cannuck

[Argus]

Imagine the Globe pointing out that Trump is acting resolutely and standing up to the Chinese and Trudeau... absent without leave again.

But many observers were surprised by an item that doesn’t seem to have been on the Prime Minister’s agenda: pressing China’s President Xi Jinping about China’s role as the source of the synthetic opioid fentanyl, which is killing thousands of Canadians each year. Indeed, when asked whether he had raised the issue, the Prime Minister simply expressed confidence that the Chinese are co-operating fully.

President Donald Trump, not surprisingly, took a different tack on the fentanyl issue, sending a typically incendiary tweet condemning Chinese inaction. But he also secured from the Chinese a commitment to list fentanyl as a “controlled substance,” making it easier to prosecute producers. Whether China, which censored this news at home, will take resolute action and co-operate with countries other than the U.S. remains to be seen.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-when-will-canada-get-serious-about-curbing-fentanyl/

[SpankyMcFarland]

We’ll be able to see if the Chinese take serious action on the fentanyl trade soon enough irrespective of where it’s going. As I pointed out in a separate thread, the next Narcos series should be filmed in China and there will be no need for a DEA voice over. 

Longer term, the attractiveness of making potent opioids lies in the demand for them and the ease with which they can be smuggled. Some of the next generation of synthetic opioids will be even more dangerous for first responders than fentanyl or carfentanil, making a change in our drug policy inevitable. 

Edited December 6, 2018 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

I can’t see our current Huawei problem helping us on this file.

[Hates politicians]

I somebody overdoses on illegal drugs let them die. That many less customers equals less demand.

[bjre]

On 12/1/2018 at 6:23 PM, Argus said:

Stopping the import of fentanyl is almost impossible because Canada lacks the policing (we have among the lowest police per population in the western world) border agency agents (the budget has been cut year after year forever) and laws (it's almost impossible to get any cooperation from the courts). In addition, of course, our federal government is obsessed with trying to please China to get more trade with them, so is not about to stand up to them in any public, meaningful way. As a result, China is ignoring the fentanyl production and its shipment to Canada.

It seems lots of people enjoy every negative news about China, and ignore any positive news about China. Over a long time, this kind of self hypnosis become the illusion that China is evil.

[bjre]

Why fentanyl  in China did not cause problem? But cause problem in other country, it is obviously this is just a management issue of the country that has the problem, not a problem of China at all. If you need cooperation from China, why not just talk to them and ask them to make from new laws. Why you enjoy blame others first, as if you are an angel?