Altai Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 I think that "justice" is the essence of the life. Everthing about life should be based on "justice". It is a value that covers all the other values. Something cannot be "true" without "justice". All the bad things are "bad" because they are not "just". But what is "justice" ? I think that "justice" is to behave according to the logic. Logic based on the same information will never vary. Its the same for everyone. So therefore, as long as we have the same information, justice wont vary from person to person too. We can reach to the "true and full of information" always and its almost impossible not to reach it. People and states have always problems and disagreements with each other because at least one side behaves illogical and unjust. If everyone would behave "just", there would not be any turmoils and disagreements. I think that it should be considered as crime and "healty" people who rejects to recognize "logic" and "justice" should be sentenced and should not be allowed to be in people until they recognize it. Allowing them to be in people is not "just". They will only harm public peace. I will share examples in this topic. What do you think ? Why are you agree with me ? You cant be disagree as long as you dont have any extra informations that will affect the logic. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
?Impact Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Altai said: Logic based on the same information will never vary. ... People and states have always problems and disagreements with each other because at least one side behaves illogical and unjust. Could it be that they are not operating on the same information? Quote
OftenWrong Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 It seems like the problem is memory of injustice from the past. People still feel pain and anger over things that have happened in the past between different countries, for example. They feel that justice is not served by simply letting it go, because they can't forget. They seek vengeance. Quote
Altai Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, OftenWrong said: It seems like the problem is memory of injustice from the past. People still feel pain and anger over things that have happened in the past between different countries, for example. They feel that justice is not served by simply letting it go, because they can't forget. They seek vengeance. Yes this would be quite valid reason but many of these things are done by people's grand parents and ancestors. We cant blame them for their ancestor's mistakes as long as they wont defend these mistakes. The problem is many people defends and repeats their ancestor's mistakes. Edited March 1, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Posted March 1, 2017 6 hours ago, ?Impact said: Could it be that they are not operating on the same information? As I said in the OP, we can reach true and full of information always. We have to know "true and full of informations" to be just. I mean for example you and me having some problems and when I ask you "what is the problem?", you should give me the information. The information which you give may be true or false. Being true/false or good/bad also depends on "justice". Therefore it wont vary from person to person. It would also be injust, if you reject to give me any information. We can reach to the "true and full of information" always and its almost impossible not to reach it. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
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