Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)

[Wilber]

Just now, Omni said:

Running out of steam I see.

Hot stuff only accepts evidence acquired from the internet by non witnesses.

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Omni said:

Running out of steam I see.

"with his C-130 Herc crew"

Pathetic! "his crew". Absolutely pathetic. You, the big "pilot" have never once offered anything that remotely addresses the issues. NOT ONE PART and here you are making nonsensical comments. 

Omni: You know Cessna makes jets, don't you?

Edited April 24, 2017 by hot enough

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Hot stuff only accepts evidence acquired from the internet by non witnesses.

A typical empty comment from Wilber the "pilot". 

[Wilber]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

"with his C-130 Herc crew"

Pathetic! "his crew". Absolutely pathetic. You, the big "pilot" have never once offered anything that remotely addresses the issues. NOT ONE PART and here you are making nonsensical comments. 

Omni: You know Cessna makes jets, don't you?

By "his C-130 Here crew", I believe Omni meant they belonged to the same airforce.

[hot enough]

6 minutes ago, Wilber said:

By "his C-130 Here crew", I believe Omni meant they belonged to the same airforce.

Whoa, you are sharp, Wilber!

[Omni]

1 minute ago, Wilber said:

By "his C-130 Here crew", I believe Omni meant they belonged to the same airforce.

Absolutely. I thought he would get that but thanks for clarifying. I don't suppose it will matter though.

[Wilber]

Just now, hot enough said:

Whoa, you are sharp, Wilber!

Ya, I accept the opinion of an airforce officer who was there and did see it over one who wasn't there and saw nothing the rest of us didn't see on TV. Is that all it takes to make one sharp in your world.

[Omni]

Just now, Omni said:

Absolutely. I thought he would get that but thanks for clarifying. I don't suppose it will matter though.

I used to have a transcript of the conversation between the Herc and ATC but can't find it just yet. I think they took off from Andrews.

[Wilber]

1 minute ago, Omni said:

Absolutely. I thought he would get that but thanks for clarifying. I don't suppose it will matter though.

Nope

[hot enough]

Still nothing from the two "pilots". 

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Still nothing from the two "pilots". 

So I guess if Wilber and I had of been flying that Herc and witnessed a 757 hit the Pentagon you would ignore it because, after all it was only pilots and hell, it blows my conspiracy theory (one of) all to hell.

[hot enough]

7 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Ya, I accept the opinion of an airforce officer who was there and did see it over one who wasn't there and saw nothing the rest of us didn't see on TV.

Not one part, Wilber, from the millions plus parts on four jumbo jets. 

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight." 

Ibid 

[Wilber]

Gofer 06

[Omni]

5 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Gofer 06

That would be the one. Thank you.

[Omni]

But will it have "an impact"? Couldn't help it.

[hot enough]

George W Bush admits in a PEOPLE Magazine article there were bombs and explosions at WTC AFTER the planes hit the twin towers. 

GWB: "I had a job to do, not a big one but an important one. I had to pretend I was able to read, "My Pet Goat"."

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The 43rd president recognizes, however, that his plight was “incomparable” to the firefighters, police officers and other responders who witnessed the tragedy firsthand.

“I had a job to do,” he says. “They [firefighters,first responders, ...] had a job to do, but I didn’t see the horrific scenes they saw nor did I get concussed by the loud explosions and the bombs that went off around them.”

http://people.com/politics/george-w-bush-opens-up-about-his-sleepless-nights-after-911/

 

 

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

George W Bush admits in a PEOPLE Magazine article there were bombs and explosions at WTC AFTER the planes hit the twin towers. 

GWB: "I had a job to do, not a big one but an important one. I had to pretend I was able to read, "My Pet Goat"."

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BTW there hotenough, have you educated yourself as to the difference between a sensitive altimeter and a radar altimeter yet because if would be helpful debunking this theory of how high flight 77 was before it hit the Pentagon? And also, moving on to the WTC and all the bafflegab about thermite, here's how you can make it at home. Be careful where you do this and make sure you are wearing safety goggles. Then get hold of two iron ball bearings that have some rust (iron oxide) on the outside. Then wrap one in tinfoil from your kitchen, and smack the two together. Those sparks that fly off if you hit them right...guess what they are!

[Wilber]

Interview transcript of Lt Col O'Brien, Gofer 06 aircraft commander.

Haven't had a chance to read it all yet and won't for awhile. Things to do.

 

 

 

[hot enough]

24 minutes ago, Omni said:

moving on to the WTC and all the bafflegab about thermite, here's how you can make it at home.

Still nothing from the "pilots".

What was found in WTC dust was nanothermite. This is not your regular thermite. You must have gone to one of your old favorite, know-nothing USGOCT websites. Perhaps the yellow journalist Popular Mechanics.

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

 

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Still nothing from the "pilots".

What was found in WTC dust was nanothermite. This is not your regular thermite. You must have gone to one of your old favorite, know-nothing USGOCT websites. Perhaps the yellow journalist Popular Mechanics.

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

 

So you now know how the thermite got there, any ideas on the altimeters yet?

[hot enough]

Nanothermite and the roughly 6% of WTC dust that was iron microspheres, the result of thermitic reactions, molten and vaporized steel, ... all say no chance at all for hijackers. 

[hot enough]

8 minutes ago, Omni said:

So you now know how the thermite got there, 

Yes, I do. 

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Jones searched for prosaic explanations for the metallic spherules and ruled out various scenarios such as their production from remains of the crashed aircraft. What he and fellow researchers found is that the spherules are best explained as a residues of aluminothermic incendiaries -- a conclusion that, like other diverse pieces of evidence, is consistent with a theory that thermite or its variants were involved in the destruction of the Towers.

Residues Consistent With Incendiaries

Analysis of the chemical composition of dust samples provides further evidence of aluminothermic arson. For example, dust samples contained particles with high levels of manganese, zinc, and barium. 6   Barium is a toxic metal used in a number of industrial processes, but unlikely to be present in significant quantities in an office building. It is, however, useful as a catalyst and accelerant of aluminothermic reactions. Zinc, barium and sulfur are all common in military thermites. ⁷  

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/residues.html

 

 

[Omni]

8 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Yes, I do. 

 

Thermite, and if you dont like this one, go get some fine steel wool and use a hydrocarbon fuel source, (like a bic lighter on high flame) and burn it. You might have to blow on it a bit to get it going good and voila, thermite. So in the WTC you have aluminum clad steel girders, an aluminum thing called an airplane hitting them at well above the sped the buildings were designed to withstand, thousands of liters of hydrocarbon up in flames, and a good breeze blowing in the hole left by that aircraft and voila, thermite, molten metal, pancaked buildings.

[hot enough]

6 minutes ago, Omni said:

Thermite, and if you dont like this one, go get some fine steel wool and use a hydrocarbon fuel source, (like a bic lighter on hih flame) and burn it. You might have to blow on it a bit to get it going good and voila, thermite. So in the WTC you have aluminum clad steel girders, an aluminum thing called an airplane hitting them at well above the sped the buildings were designed to withstand, thousands of liters of hydrocarbon up in flames, and a good breeze blowing in the hole left by that aircraft and voila, thermite, molten metal, pancaked buildings.

What don't you understand about NANOTHERMITE? You didn't watch the video or you are unable to understand basic science principles explained to you. With you guys, either is a strong possibility. 

You CANNOT make NANOTHERMITE  in the ludicrous manner you have described above. 

It is useless discussing these things with such incompetents. 

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Some reports suggest that the aluminum from the aircraft ignited, creating very high temperatures. While it is possible to ignite aluminum under special conditions, such conditions are not commonly attained in a hydrocarbon-based diffuse flame. In addition, the flame would be white hot, like a giant sparkler. There was no evidence of such aluminum ignition, which would have been visible even through the dense soot. 

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

 

[Omni]

15 minutes ago, hot enough said:

What don't you understand about NANOTHERMITE? You didn't watch the video or you are unable to understand basic science principles explained to you. With you guys, either is a strong possibility. 

You CANNOT make NANOTHERMITE  in the ludicrous manner you have described above. 

It is useless discussing these things with such incompetents. 

 

Try putting that lighter to steel wool, you will create microspheres consistent with nano thermite.