Canda and freedom

[Cartman]

I think it was in another post that ndpnic mentioned that health problems were a problem in continuing with full-time work and that the cost of medicine was an impediment as well.

[caesar]

Well if he has a child he has a spouse that should be able to work. His example was working full time. Don't have children if you can't support them. funny that you can afford a computer and internet eh.

[ndpnic]

Do the math. $7/hr x 40 = $280

$280 x 4 = $1520

Out of that $1520, the government will take their share, say @ $300.00

That leaves $1220

rent = $600

utilities = $250

That leaves us with $370

I guess math was not your strong suit. There are four and one third weeks in a month. Even at only 7 dollars an hour that is an extra 91 dollars a month.

No one forces you to stay at a minimum wage job; do they. Can you not find a better job; if not why are you having children. Does your spouse work? Why not. You are responsible for yourself ; the government (we the people) should only help able bodied people on a temporary basis; those who are handicapped or for some reason are mentally or physically unable to work need to get more money to live on; I can see giving more help for a single parent family until the child is of school age.

Do you really think $91 makes a noticable difference?

I went to college, my hubby to university.

I used to work for CAS, and Hubby worked for Wheat Pool.

Sometimes my brain litterally get so Swollen, that I have to go on cycles of Prednizone to get the swelling down. Do you know what it;s like to live through a 6 week miagrain?

My hubby lost colin to Colitis, and has Crohn's. He has had 1/2 his stomache removed, ond 95% of his bowels. The only drug that works for him is Remicade, which was $6,400 for his last infusion.

My spouse does work, he is the head of shipping for a playground manufacturer, and has worked for this company for over 10 years. The problem is he hasn't gotten a raise in almost 5 years, because his employer knows that with his health, his options to leave are very limited. No company that requires a physical will hire him because he has a pre existing crohnic illness, and is ineligable for benefits.

Our son was born 5 years ago, before our financial situation turned.

And it turned because 2 years ago hubby got sick and it took 4 months of fighting OHIP and his insurance company to pay for the Remicade. He missed work off and on duing this period, lost over 40lbs because all he could eat was canned ckicken noodle soup.

You may not care, but if my huuby doesn't get Remicade he will have to go on TPN feeding, nothing to drink or eat EVER AGAIN!

We have almost $1000/m in meds, but income is only $1680/m.

So you see, we're not sitting on assistance, have never been on it. Hubby takes Percocette every day just to able to go to work.

But because of his income of $14/hr, we qualify for no suuport programs.

So, we are educated, hubby does work, any more sage advive, caesar?

Believe it or not, some people don't need handouts, they need a hand along!!!!!

[Newfie Canadian]

Some of what your describing ndpnic, can be considered a provincial matter, like drugs and OHIP.

Those are provincial jurisdictions where the feds have little say, or is that part of your point, that the feds should be more involved in helping out?

[Guest eureka]

I think the form of criticisms of ndpnic that are appearing should stop. She sounds to me like someone at the end of her rope who needs to see a Social Worker to find help with the medical expenses. I believe that governments can be forced to pay for what she must have.

The maths, BTW, are wrong but in the other way. She overstates her monthly income. 4 times 280 is 1120 and an extra $91 does not make for a sustainable existence.

[ndpnic]

I think the form of criticisms of ndpnic that are appearing should stop. She sounds to me like someone at the end of her rope who needs to see a Social Worker to find help with the medical expenses. I believe that governments can be forced to pay for what she must have.

The maths, BTW, are wrong but in the other way. She overstates her monthly income. 4 times 280 is 1120 and an extra $91 does not make for a sustainable existence.

Thank you so much Eureka!

That's the problem though. We have seen social workers, appealed pension rejections, turned to our local MP and MPP.

They all gave the same answer " sorry, it's a terrible situation, but there is nothing we can do because people like you aren;t supposed to exist in Canada"!

What I need to know is, after you have tried to access the resources out there, but you keep falling outside the norm, WHO /Where do WE turn for help?

[Guest eureka]

Take it to a newspaper.

[ndpnic]

Take it to a newspaper.

I've sent my story to the media.

Guess it,s just not important!

[August1991]

That's the problem though. We have seen social workers, appealed pension rejections, turned to our local MP and MPP.

Did you try Sgro's Chief of Staff?

[maplesyrup]

That's the problem though. We have seen social workers, appealed pension rejections, turned to our local MP and MPP.

Did you try Sgro's Chief of Staff?

Nothing like displaying your lack of compassion, eh! :angry:

[August1991]

That's the problem though. We have seen social workers, appealed pension rejections, turned to our local MP and MPP.

Did you try Sgro's Chief of Staff?

Nothing like displaying your lack of compassion, eh! :angry:

ndpnic seems to be familiar with strip joints and their managers.

[Argus]

I think the form of criticisms of ndpnic that are appearing should stop.

The problem is she did not really explain her situation in her earlier posts.

They all gave the same answer " sorry, it's a terrible situation, but there is nothing we can do because people like you aren;t supposed to exist in Canada"!

No, they are not supposed to. Ontario is supposed to be covering expensive prescriptions like yours and your husband's. Hell, my millionaire uncle has all his prescriptions covered because he's over 65. That you're not covered is due to the incompetent weasels who are unfortunately the most common variety of political animal these days. There is certainly money available. It would not cost that much more to extend emergency prescription coverage a little more. If you were on welfare, after all, the proviince would cover your prescriptions. If you were a refugee the federal government would cover them. The cost of some prescriptions are too ridiculously high not to be covered due to some ludicrous means test.

[ndpnic]

That's the problem though. We have seen social workers, appealed pension rejections, turned to our local MP and MPP.

Did you try Sgro's Chief of Staff?

Nothing like displaying your lack of compassion, eh! :angry:

ndpnic seems to be familiar with strip joints and their managers.

Your right I do. When I was 22 my first husband walked out on me and left me with $300.00 to my name. Had to pay the bills, so I did spend a year as a stripper. Thought it would be better then taking your money via welfare!

[August1991]

Maple Syrup:

It is time for Immigration Minister Sgro to go, and for there to be an inquiry into her ministry that seems to be involved with threats, intimidation, strippers, strip clubs, prostitution, tax evasion, immigration fraud, and who knows what else.

What in the world is our Canadian government coming to getting mixed up in all this low-life underworld stuff?

Maybe MS will want to help you, ndpnic.

[RB]

I can sympathise with your circumstances. It was not so long ago I also encountered what is financial deprivation as a single mother.

Your situation is complicated with health and happiness and finances. I can relate that it is during these times you come face to face with reality check. And when I check the statistics then, it told me 70% of all single mothers were in financial dire straits, so no good news.

I meant all these mothers were probably helpless and seemingly hopeless in worrying about being poor, not providing basic necessaries for the family, distressed about the rent, or having no food at home. The same regaling of desperate outreach for some assistance.

It was while I was standing in front of the “Our Lady of Fatima”, a Catholic Church that I met myself, my hopes, my fears and dreams. Now, I am not religious by any means. Least I entered the church my gains would be the immersion of good grace, some good sense and more appreciation for some good architecture. I mean the church must have some probity, and enthusiasm, some good learnt people who are devoted and would turn no person away.

So, I entered and was right. They were generous and believed in the very little I said. It is a difficult thing to forgo a last resort of pride. Nope, no one tried to convert me, and yes I am still not religious. No I also have no misgivings.

Sometimes, the alternatives are there, only you have to see it and strive towards it with encouragement from you. So, of course, I have moved on, only I usually nowadays decide on my own direction. Come the New Year I will decide whether I will occupy THE top position of a consulting engineering firm while they await an answer, and plus also I do operate my own business among other things so I don’t foresee being in dire straits. And yes I do send my yearly gratuities still to the church.

The question I ask can you take your burden of weight and press it upon the shoulders of the government and hold them responsible for your escape route.

They are very vigilant in the operation some pitiless laws, and usually extend an apology saying, “I am not here at all” you know

It never really occurred to me to access the government system, I think the government takes too much care that the people to not cheat them. But, perhaps hopefully the day will come, when the government do not take care that they do not cheat the people.

In the meantime the church might be the kind of “knot of friends” you need while also being the place of solace.

[shackwacky]

Cartman, get control of your computer. That last post was way wacky. Proofread.

this is an edited post please do not adjust your sets...this is what happens when one only looks at page one and two and has head up arse

[shackwacky]

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