Long time NDP MP's not running in 2015!

[On Guard for Thee]

And I'm the one that needs a lesson in math?

Apparently you are, but we tried last time and it seems not to have worked. Oh well.

[Smallc]

They have cut the increases, not the program. Learn the difference.

[On Guard for Thee]

They have cut the increases, not the program. Learn the difference.

Nobody said they cut the program. But at least you seem to be getting onto the idea they made cuts to the financing of the program. Perhaps we made progress with the ath program.

Edited June 24, 2015 by On Guard for Thee

[Smallc]

Nobody said they cut the program. But at least you seem to be getting onto the idea they made cuts to the financing of the program. Perhaps we made progress with the ath program.

Perhaps you've suddenly changed your language to something more realistic. The program is going to continue to grow in the future. It will simply be at a more economically sustainable and lower rate. No deceitful language necessary.

[On Guard for Thee]

Perhaps you've suddenly changed your language to something more realistic. The program is going to continue to grow in the future. It will simply be at a more economically sustainable and lower rate. No deceitful language necessary.

No change in language here. The per capita cash xfer will only serve to widen the gap between have and have not provinces and make national standards of healthcare be much more unlikely. Tying payments to GDP guts the original concept of our healthcare system, but it may be a way to pave the way for privatization, and the horrors we see south of the border. But of course no surprise Harper has a long standing buddy in that business.

[Smallc]

I still haven't seen evidence of your assertion that the program will be based on provincial growth. It is, from everything I've read, based on a national average. Nice job finally coming to your senses otherwise.

Edited June 24, 2015 by Smallc

[On Guard for Thee]

I still haven't seen evidence of your assertion that the program will be vased on original growth. It is, from everything I've read, based on a national average. Nice job finally coming to your senses otherwise.

Not sure what you are trying to say by original growth or national average.

[Smallc]

Fixed

[WWWTT]

But make no mistake about it. This will hurt the party. They're losing a lot of powerful incumbents.

The departure of Comartin and Davies also hurt the NDP!

Departures of good members always creates loss.

But also create new opportunity!

However, I have to strongly agree that high profile potential future leaders of the party leaving is bad bad bad and more bad!

We were debating not long ago who was going to step up for the conservatives after Harper leaves. And probably half of the names that were thrown around have now said they're gone!

WWWTT

[cybercoma]

There's always Skippy. .He could be the next leader of the CPC when Harper retires.

[Canada_First]

The departure of Comartin and Davies also hurt the NDP!

Departures of good members always creates loss.

But also create new opportunity!

However, I have to strongly agree that high profile potential future leaders of the party leaving is bad bad bad and more bad!

We were debating not long ago who was going to step up for the conservatives after Harper leaves. And probably half of the names that were thrown around have now said they're gone!

WWWTT

was their departure also due to to greed as the cpc ones were?

[WWWTT]

was their departure also due to to greed as the cpc ones were?

Comartin is past retirement age and Libby is in her early sixties.

Perhaps Libby? Bot the new rules do not apply to Comartin.

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[WWWTT]

There's always Skippy. .He could be the next leader of the CPC when Harper retires.

Not funny!

The next leader of the conservatives is going to be a no name unless it's that Van guy?

Experienced known names make the transition easier.

It almost seems as if the conservatives have thrown in the towel already and are getting a head start on rebuilding the party anew.

WWWTT

[Canada_First]

Comartin is past retirement age and Libby is in her early sixties.

Perhaps Libby? Bot the new rules do not apply to Comartin.

WWWTT

I see, so the NDP not running is due to some honorable reason while the CPC retirement is all due to greed. Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy.

[WWWTT]

I see, so the NDP not running is due to some honorable reason while the CPC retirement is all due to greed. Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy.

Never said that.

But you're going to believe whatever you like so go right ahead.

WWWTT

[jacee]

here, let the waldo (more accurately) reinforce the 'pointing out' - you're welcome

as of June 19th, retiring and resigned incumbents:

Harper Conservatives (33): Moore, Ablonczy, Benoit, Breitkreuz, Harris, Anders, Goldring, Keddy, MacKay, Vellacott, Rajotte, Schellenberger, Devolin, Hiebert, Kamp, Kormarnicki, O'Connor, Preston, Smith, Allen, Baird, Brown (P), Bruinooge, Davidson, Hawn, Mayes, Norlock, Paradis, Storseth, Boughen, Glover, Kerr, Payne

NDP (14): Davies, Godin, Comartin, Crowder, Atamanenko, Charlton, Benskin, Brahmi, Genest, Jacob, Latendresse, Morin (M-A), Morin (M-C), Raynault

Liberal (5): Byrne, Cotler, Valeroite, Hsu, St-Denis

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C 21%

N 15%

L 14%

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[jacee]

Perhaps you've suddenly changed your language to something more realistic. The program is going to continue to grow in the future. It will simply be at a more economically sustainable and lower rate. No deceitful language necessary.

We've been over this before Smallc. You maintain the sleazy propaganda line like a true party operative ... rather than an ordinary Canadian concerned about their own health care.

These are cuts to the health care dollars available PER PERSON because the small increase does not keep pace with

- inflation, and

- increasing costs of new technologies and treatments AND

- the increasing senior population in need of increasing healthcare.

Those can all be predicted and budgeted for. Instead, Harper and you choose to pull a sleazy propaganda stunt.

Wait til the baby boomers figure out they're getting fewer health care dollars PER PERSON than previous generations.

The Conservatives won't always be able to count on the senior vote as they have in the past either.

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Edited June 27, 2015 by jacee

[jacee]

Not funny!

The next leader of the conservatives is going to be a no name unless it's that Van guy?

Experienced known names make the transition easier.

It almost seems as if the conservatives have thrown in the towel already and are getting a head start on rebuilding the party anew.

WWWTT

They say ... Jason Kenney. :/

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[Smallc]

You'd rather pretend that spending on health can continue o grow faster than revenue. You're definitely not the good Canadian here.

[cybercoma]

You'd rather pretend that spending on health can continue o grow faster than revenue. You're definitely not the good Canadian here.

Revenue was torched by the Conservatives themselves. You don't get to swing from Harper's neck, but then complain about the lack of federal revenues.

[WWWTT]

They say ... Jason Kenney. :/

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Oh ya I forgot about him.

I guess he's been keeping a low profile lately.

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[Canada_First]

This topic is for discussing the NDP not the Tories. Go to the other topic to discuss the Tories please. Thank you.

[Canada_First]

So are the NDP who aren't running just greedy as well? Are they just protecting their pensions? Why is it that the left wing are the only ones who are seen to be as good as conservatives are seen as bad?

[Bob Macadoo]

So are the NDP who aren't running just greedy as well? Are they just protecting their pensions? Why is it that the left wing are the only ones who are seen to be as good as conservatives are seen as bad?

Insert politician, analyst, advisor or deputy into your equation......it makes no difference. Does Glover get a pension? She still have her job open at RCMP? Wonder how much she has in that fund in comparison.

[Canada_First]

Insert politician, analyst, advisor or deputy into your equation......it makes no difference. Does Glover get a pension? She still have her job open at RCMP? Wonder how much she has in that fund in comparison.

all politicians are somewhat corrupt.