Smallc Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 lol So the truth is that the Harper propagandists are trying to bluff us into believing "increase" in Federal health funding, when in fact the 'increase' is not enough to cover increases in cost and demand. So effectively the increase is a decrease in per person funding. . No, that's completely false. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Just breathtaking., As if the Khmer Rouge government sang Kumbaya real well. Most of the other ones you listed were pretty bad as well. What's breathtaking, jbg, is your wonderful ability to generate highly disconnected memes and false history. The Khmer Rouge sang, "Thanks for the money and support" to the USA. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Most of the other ones you listed were pretty bad as well. Go ahead and explain, using your exceptional knowledge of history, how the ones I listed "were pretty bad as well". But yet you support the greatest terrorists on the planet, the USA, the ones that have been terrorizing, poisoning, torturing, killing Cubans, Iraqis, afghans, Nicaraguans, Brazilians, Guatemalans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Filipinos, Chinese, Laotians, Hawaiians, ... for over a century. And don't forget Native Americans. And you don't see the huge disconnect in your thinking? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 No, that's completely false. I am mostly impressed with the facts that you have brought forward to support your "argument", smallc. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 I read that wrong. 1. The funding will generally increase by slightly more than 3%. Overall health spending (mostly out of pocket) will increase by 4.9%. 2. We need to do better at becoming more efficient. Number 1 meme falls flat, but number 2 is at the ready. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 No, that's completely false. Apparently every provincial leader in the country disagrees with you. Quote
Smallc Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Apparently every provincial leader in the country disagrees with you. Everyone always wants more money. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Everyone always wants more money. Which is I guess why thy are not happy about the prospect of getting less. Quote
Bryan Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Which is I guess why thy are not happy about the prospect of getting less. They are not getting less. They are getting more than they ever have. Quote
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Costs increase. Aging increases demand. Is that considered? . And provinces guaranteed large funding increases make zero effort to improve efficiencies, and even waste masses of money. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 lol So the truth is that the Harper propagandists are trying to bluff us into believing "increase" in Federal health funding, when in fact the 'increase' is not enough to cover increases in cost and demand. You act like health care spending is not something the provinces have any control over. There are many ways for them to improve efficiencies and still improve health care. Most of them just aren't bothering to try. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 But yet you support the greatest terrorists on the planet, Speaking of supporting terrorists, I understand a Danish man was almost sent to jail for posting "Je suis Omar' on his facebook page, in sympathy with the murderer and terrorist Omar El Hussein. But you know this, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 I am mostly impressed with the facts that you have brought forward to support your "argument", smallc. And yet, they are more than sufficient to overwhelm your radical left wing, factless bleating. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Apparently every provincial leader in the country disagrees with you. Are you kidding me!? You're saying the provinces want more money!? Wow! Mark this down as a historical first! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 They are not getting less. They are getting more than they ever have. Not less yet because the Martin program has not ended yet. But coming soon to a provincial healthcare system near you. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Are you kidding me!? You're saying the provinces want more money!? Wow! Mark this down as a historical first! No, Im not kidding you. And here is a futuristic fact you may not be aware of...provinces are going to be forced to deal with an ageing population while the funding for caring for those people is reduced. Hows that for a wow! Quote
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 No, Im not kidding you. And here is a futuristic fact you may not be aware of...provinces are going to be forced to deal with an ageing population while the funding for caring for those people is reduced. Hows that for a wow! Gee, maybe the provinces should come with... what's that thing called... uhm... on the tip of my tongue, wait... a plan! Yes a plan! Maybe they should plan for this and develop some ideas and policies to deal with it! They also have the ability to raise taxes themselves by the way. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Gee, maybe the provinces should come with... what's that thing called... uhm... on the tip of my tongue, wait... a plan! Yes a plan! Maybe they should plan for this and develop some ideas and policies to deal with it! They also have the ability to raise taxes themselves by the way. Harper has had one of those things you seemed to struggle to name, yes a plan, to kill healthcare which he stated during his days at the NCC. While you might like to joke about it, some of us see the writing on the wall here and are concerned about a very important cornerstone of Canadian culture Quote
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Harper has had one of those things you seemed to struggle to name, yes a plan, to kill healthcare which he stated during his days at the NCC. Paranoid looniness. Harper's been PM for years now and you still hide under the bed for fear of his 'hidden agenda'. Edited April 8, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Je suis Omar Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Speaking of supporting terrorists, ... But you know this, right?I'm impressed by your "economic and statistics" offerings, Argus. You really offer killer sources!Photos of the six Jesuit priests and their housekeeper murdered by U.S.-supported soldier in El Salvador's civil warone of many examples of ... NOVEMBER 3, 2014 Noam Chomsky: The Long, Shameful History of American Terrorism President Obama should call our countrys history of supporting insurgents abroad for what it is: U.S.-backed terrorism. BY NOAM CHOMSKY It's official: The U.S. is the world's leading terrorist state, and proud of it. That should have been the headline for the lead story in the New York Times on October 15, which was more politely titled CIA Study of Covert Aid Fueled Skepticism About Helping Syrian Rebels. The article reports on a CIA review of recent U.S. covert operations to determine their effectiveness. The White House concluded that unfortunately successes were so rare that some rethinking of the policy was in order. The article quoted President Barack Obama as saying that he had asked the CIA to conduct the review to find cases of financing and supplying arms to an insurgency in a country that actually worked out well. And they couldn't come up with much. So Obama has some reluctance about continuing such efforts. The first paragraph of the Times article cites three major examples of covert aid: Angola, Nicaragua and Cuba. In fact, each case was a major terrorist operation conducted by the U.S. http://inthesetimes.com/article/17311/noam_chomsky_the_worlds_greatest_terrorist_campaign Edited April 8, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
jacee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Jacee: So effectively the increase is a decrease in per person funding. No, that's completely false. Really? Then why do you say that we have to become 'more efficient'? . Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Paranoid looniness. Harper's been PM for years now and you still hide under the bed for fear of his 'hidden agenda'. Not hidden in the least. Go back and see what his comments were when he was president of the NCC up to 2002. And while youre at it check out what business the founder of same, Colin Brown, was in. Ill save you the effort, private insurance, surprise surprise. Harper of course has to be quiet about his agenda because he has also to be aware of the polls. Be careful, to paraphrase Joni Mitchell, you dont know what youve got till its gone. Quote
Argus Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Not hidden in the least. Go back and see what his comments were when he was president of the NCC up to 2002. And while youre at it check out what business the founder of same, Colin Brown, was in. Ill save you the effort, private insurance, surprise surprise. Harper of course has to be quiet about his agenda because he has also to be aware of the polls. Be careful, to paraphrase Joni Mitchell, you dont know what youve got till its gone. So how long do you think Harper will keep his hidden agenda hidden away? Till after he's no longer PM? Little late to do anything about it by then, don't you think? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 So how long do you think Harper will keep his hidden agenda hidden away? Till after he's no longer PM? Little late to do anything about it by then, don't you think? He is already working on it. Just being a bit careful. But has been able to convince some that who arent too good at math that he is not offloading billions onto the provinces. And he is opening the door more and more for privatization. Just like Colin Brown told him to. Quote
Smallc Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 Not less yet because the Martin program has not ended yet. But coming soon to a provincial healthcare system near you. The Martin program ended March 31, 2014. Quote
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