RCMP Seized High River Firearms From Homes - break and enter

[Derek 2.0]

No, just maybe a 3 year old will accidentally shoot her 2 year old brother as happenned in Utah not so long ago. And that's just one story.

So you’re now suggesting PAL/RPAL holders, forced to leave their homes, will disregard the laws associated with safe storage & transport?

Edited July 17, 2014 by Derek 2.0

[On Guard for Thee]

I'm not suggesting it, I was just reporting it.

[On Guard for Thee]

You seem to be suggesting the police used the flood as an excuse to go into abandoned homes and steal peoples guns for no reason. Which is also quite silly a notion. If they had the right to own a gun before the flood, they can go and get another one after the flood. All this process would have accomplished would be to cost people some money. It wouldn't necessarily reduce gun ownership in the long term.

[Derek 2.0]

I'm not suggesting it, I was just reporting it.

Reporting what? That Canadian PAL/RPAL holders disregard the laws associated with safe storage & transport once they leave their homes?

[On Guard for Thee]

Reporting what? That Canadian PAL/RPAL holders disregard the laws associated with safe storage & transport once they leave their homes?

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/04/23/boy-shot-killed-young-sister-dad-gun-utah

[Derek 2.0]

You seem to be suggesting the police used the flood as an excuse to go into abandoned homes and steal peoples guns for no reason. Which is also quite silly a notion.

It might appear silly to you, but the police did seize firearms, well entering homes under the auspices of searching for people in distress…….There is currently (and nearly finished) an investigation being conducted by the Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP.

If they had the right to own a gun before the flood, they can go and get another one after the flood.

Who is paying for them to “go get another one”?

All this process would have accomplished would be to cost people some money.

You would be ok with members of the Military and RCMP conducting a search, sans a warrant, within your own home, damaging property, and then seizing other property from your home, again, without a warrant?

It wouldn't necessarily reduce gun ownership in the long term.

You’re clearly missing the point of contention of said residents.

[Derek 2.0]

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/04/23/boy-shot-killed-young-sister-dad-gun-utah

What does that have to do with Canadian PAL/RPAL holders? As I said:

So you’re now suggesting PAL/RPAL holders, forced to leave their homes, will disregard the laws associated with safe storage & transport?

[On Guard for Thee]

So you're suggesting the police went into peoples abandoned houses to steal their guns and then lied on their reports. Sounds like NRA gun nut paranoia to me. And as I said, all they have to do is save up a few bucks and go buy another shotgun or whatever. Maybe next time keeping it secured IAC with legal guidelines.

[Derek 2.0]

So you're suggesting the police went into peoples abandoned houses to steal their guns and then lied on their reports.

I never suggested the RCMP lied on their reports, they quite clearly announced their actions after the fact.

Sounds like NRA gun nut paranoia to me.

Why do you say that? Are you suggesting the RCMP and Army didn’t seize firearms?

And as I said, all they have to do is save up a few bucks and go buy another shotgun or whatever.

And as I said, if the RCMP and Army seized your property, without a warrant, you’d be fine with that?

Maybe next time keeping it secured IAC with legal guidelines.

The RCMP did admit to seizing legally stored firearms……should they face censure in your view?

[On Guard for Thee]

I think you'll find they don't need a warrant to enter an abandoned property in the midst of an emergency such as a flood. Peoples lives have been saved by that process.

If they seized legally stored firearms then they should return them and be held to account.

[Derek 2.0]

I think you'll find they don't need a warrant to enter an abandoned property in the midst of an emergency such as a flood. Peoples lives have been saved by that process.

How many lives did they save kicking in doors of homes of High River and searching in closets, under beds and in underpants drawers?

If they seized legally stored firearms then they should return them and be held to account.

Most, if not all of the guns have been returned.........If you stole a car, would you expect the RCMP to let you return it and all would be forgotten?

As to being held to account, they will be.........hence the investigation.....none the less, this coupled with many other abuses on the file will likely see the RCMP loose the CFP in the Fall.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Derek 2.0