Big Blue Machine Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 It will that Canada and America should combine their space programs, and Canada and America should 50/50 the costs. That way we share the space information. Plus, we don't have to have our single programs. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Stoker Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 So you are going to pay the additional costs with your paper route? Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
Slavik44 Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 BBM split the costs 50/50, you ahve got to be kidding me..... United States $ 10,980,000,000,000 Canada $ 957,700,000,000 Basic logic suggests that we cannot do that, we don't ask a guy making $30,000 a year to pay the exact numerical figure of a guy making $300,000 a year, because it almost imediatley requires the guy making 30,000 to go in debt to pay his taxes. Yes Canada needs to spend time on scientific research, including space however we need to be able to afford to do it, and we need to retain some control over the money. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
Stoker Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 The Americans spend over 13 billion dollars a year on NASA..........Where is our government going to come with the almost 8.5 billion dollars (CDN) to meet our end of the NASA budget? Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
Big Blue Machine Posted September 11, 2004 Author Report Posted September 11, 2004 Ok, maybe not 50/50, but we should share some of the costs like 20/80. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Stoker Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Ok, maybe not 50/50, but we should share some of the costs like 20/80. Where are we going to get the 3.4 billion then? Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
JWayne625 Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 I think it is a good idea for Canada to participate in the space program. The fist thing we should do is put all those Supreme Court Judges, with their pie-in-the-sky ideas into a space capsule and send it on let's say a round trip to, let me see...the sun! They should do quite nicely, and by the time they get back we should have the problems they created all worked out. Seriously though we simply do not have the money to be as involved as we are already. It has become a make-work project for the space cadet agency in Quebec. Quote
ceemes Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 A 50/50 split is foolish..... The fact is, proper space exploration and science is far too expensive for any one nation to do on its own, even the US. Basically what is needed is a coordinated international effort where all the nations who are currently involved in space exploration and science to act together in order to maximize the effort. As it is, there is already far too much duplication of effort and reinventing the wheel going on between the competing nations. The international space station is a good if somewhat flawed start. A unified and joint effort where every nation contributes where it can best assist would speed up space exploration. If the conquests and exploration of the America's carry on at the speed that manned exploration of space is, then the various first nations peoplese would still own the land from the Artic to the tip of South America. Quote
caesar Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 If the conquests and exploration of the America's carry on at the speed that manned exploration of space is, then the various first nations peoplese would still own the land from the Artic to the tip of South America. So, we should speed things up and commit the same atrocious acts as we did then? There is a serious danger to space exploration that we seem to be largely ignoring. There is a serious possibility of bringing back alien bacteria that could cause unprecedented illnesses to the world; much like the diseases our ancestor's brought to the Americas that helped to wipe out a large number of natives. Quote
Big Blue Machine Posted September 12, 2004 Author Report Posted September 12, 2004 Ok, I see my damned mistake. But you guys aren't answering my question. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Stoker Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Ok, I see my damned mistake. But you guys aren't answering my question. If we didn't have more important issues to address like defence, healthcare, education, debt reduction enviroment, uneployment etc., then yes, the case could be made that we could be doing more in space. Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
caesar Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 What is your question Big Blue? We already contribute money and technology to the USA space program. You think that we need to contribute more for whatever crumbs extra they might send us? Let's get this country working smoothly sans corruption and wasting money. Canada is constantly sending off our tax money to help other countries; too much in my opinion. Why did we forgive all the loans to Russia? Quote
The Terrible Sweal Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Space development is the future of humankind. We are crazy to keep all our eggs in this fragile little basket, and the economic growth potential is staggering. So yes, Canada should do more in space. Quote
Bro Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 I don't want to downplay your post,but there are a few liberal mp's that have their heads in space,maybe they would be better suited to that area of the universe,as opposed to living on Canadian soil. Quote
Bro Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Let's get this country working smoothly sans corruption and wasting money. So tell me caeser,which party did you vote for in the last election to help with that cause?LOL Quote
ceemes Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 If the conquests and exploration of the America's carry on at the speed that manned exploration of space is, then the various first nations peoplese would still own the land from the Artic to the tip of South America. So, we should speed things up and commit the same atrocious acts as we did then? As far as we know, there are no intelligent species residing within our solar system to commit atrocious acts upon. And any extrasolar species we run into out there more then likely would be advanced enough to give us a run for our money....so this argument is laughable. There is a serious danger to space exploration that we seem to be largely ignoring. There is a serious possibility of bringing back alien bacteria that could cause unprecedented illnesses to the world; much like the diseases our ancestor's brought to the Americas that helped to wipe out a large number of natives. The Andromeda Strain Syndrome.......well, the odds of an alien bacteria or whatever having a genetic make up that is compatible with ours is highly unlikely. The bugs we Europeans brought to the America's were born and bred on earth, therefore the natives were perfect hosts for them, having no immunity to them. Quote
caesar Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 The Andromeda Strain Syndrome.......well, the odds of an alien bacteria or whatever having a genetic make up that is compatible with ours is highly unlikely. It is not a remote possibility. It is a serious concern Quote
JWayne625 Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 We already pay quite enough of our tax money on Space Cadets in Canada. They're called politicians' and Supreme Court Justices. Let's not advocate finding some other kind of space to waste our money on! Quote
Big Blue Machine Posted September 24, 2004 Author Report Posted September 24, 2004 So, Jway, you don't think Canada be involved with the exploration of space? We need to get our part to space. We have the Canadarm, and we should build and give more. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
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