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No. I'm calling you a racist for your constant claiming that arabs are some kind of sub-human barbarian species that would do such a thing.

Which of the predominantly Arab countries is this not being done? Name me three. And for sh**s and giggles you can include countries as far east as Pakistan and as far west as Morocco.

And by the way, what about the forced expulsion of 600,000 Jews from Arab lands between 1948 and 1952? Care to address whether that is "ethnic cleansing."

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Most Jews migrated by choice to Palestine. They were encouraged and given incentives to move to Palestine. There was hardly any problems with the Jews in the Arab world until around the 30's when Zionist migration accelerated and word got around that the Jews were confiscating Arab land in Palestine. It was due to the Zionist colonization of Palestine that things went sour between the Arabs and the Jews.

You also realize that before 1948, there were close to 1,000,000 Arabs in what is now known as Israel and around 700,000 of them became refugees after fleeing the war and ultimately, being expelled by the Jews. As bud has pointed out, over 500 Palestinian villages were destroyed by Jewish militias and terrorist groups in what is now known as Israel and the 700,000 Palestinians were never allowed to go back to their homes, creating world's biggest refugee group.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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here is an article written by max blumenthal who, despite not being allowed through israel's borders, managed to go into the palestinian "outpost". he reminds us how israel has no problem being a lawless state.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was clearly troubled by the establishment ofBab Al Shams, a Palestinian protest village erected on privately-owned Palestinian land, the planned route of what Israel calls the “E-1” corridor in the occupied West Bank.

Despite the government’s vehement objections to the presence of the Palestinian village, the high court issued a temporary injunction preventing its eviction for six days pending further deliberations.

As the clock struck midnight on Saturday night, Netanyahu summoned his lawyers to author a statement overriding the high court. Treating the court’s ruling as a mere suggestion, the Israeli justice ministry concocted a justification that was as ludicrous as it was predictable: “There is an urgent security need to evacuate the area of the people and tents,” it claimed, suggesting without evidence that a few hundred unarmed activists presented a grave threat to public safety.

as usual, israel does its best to control the flow of information when it comes to its questionable actions.

A police commander told me and other journalists that no reporters were allowed inside the area. Though he claimed to hold a formal order from the military, he failed to produce any kind of documentation.

many palestinian towns and villages have become cantons due to the israeli barrier, highways, checkpoints and settlements located on palestinian land, which are deemed illegal under international law.

In order to enter Bab Al Shams, me and three colleagues had to first navigate the narrow, pothole-scarred roads of al-Zaim, an impoverished Palestinian town severed from the rest of the Jerusalem municipality by Israel’s separation wall and a checkpoint. Though al-Zaim is already an overcrowded, under-serviced ghetto prevented from expanding to meet the needs of a growing population, the construction of the E-1 corridor would enclose it on all sides, consolidating its isolation and forced immiseration.

Under pressure from right-wing upstarts amidst a heated election contest, Netanyahu ordered the eviction of Bab Al Shams in flagrant contempt of the country’s high court. And not one of the judges issued a word of protest. In a state guided not by the democratic rule of law, but by the colonial imperatives of the occupation, Netanyahu’s roguery was business as usual.

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could the palestinians' new status at the UN help them in their legal battles against israel's evictions and expulsions?

legal experts to high court: israel could be tried at the hague if it evicts west bank villagers

The court then suggested that the petitioners submit a revised petition, which is being submitted Wednesday, via the Association for Civil Rights in Israel. That petition includes a legal opinion by Prof. Eyal Benvenisti, who argues that the Geneva Conventions’ prohibition on the forcible transfer of protected populations from occupied territory has become customary law, meaning it binds even countries that aren’t signatories to the conventions. As such, it supersedes the military commander’s orders.

Benvenisti also noted that this prohibition is one over which the ICC’s founding treaty explicitly grants it jurisdiction.

“The prohibition is absolute, without exceptions, and isn’t dependent on permanent residency,” he wrote. ”The absoluteness of this prohibition derives from the dark history of World War II, in which deportations were widespread for various reasons.”

The Geneva Conventions do allow protected populations to be temporarily evacuated for the sake of urgent and temporary military needs, such as in the midst of battle, he added. But creating a live-fire training zone wouldn’t qualify.

Moreover, he argued, this would constitute a prohibited “forcible transfer” even if no physical force were used: The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has already ruled that pressure tactics such as searching houses or disconnecting them from water and electricity suffice to make a transfer “forcible.”

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the "most moral army in the world" and the "only democracy in the middle east" continue to show us who they really are. the human rights violations, systematic land theft and ethnic cleansing continues.

remember, this is happening in the west bank:

IDF evicts Palestinians from their land, arrests 15, including mother with baby

The Israeli army arrested 10 Palestinians and five Israelis in the South Hebron Hills today (Saturday) while they were trying to reach Palestinian-owned land next to the illegal outpost called Mitzpeh Yair, in the southern West Bank.

the Awwad family from Umm al Ara’is was accompanied by Palestinians from Susya and Israeli activists to try and reach their land, since in recent months they have been increasingly prevented from doing so by the army.

As soon as they got there, the IDF soldiers declared it a “closed military zone” for reasons that are unclear and require no explanation, and before giving the dozens of people there even 5 minutes to evacuate, they simply began making arrests. A Palestinian woman carrying her child who approached her husband while he was getting arrested was immediately arrested as well

The settlers who live in this illegal outpost often harass Palestinians in this area while they are trying to cultivate their crops and graze their sheep. It has been going on for years. But it is not just the settlers but the army, who not only doesn’t usually stop them, but closes off the whole area on a regular basis – in direct contradiction of High Court rulings that the army must act to not only allow Palestinians on their land but protect them from settler violence.

The IDF’s Civil Administration seems to have targeted this area as a “disputed territory,” systematically issuing “closed military zone” orders which force all the Palestinians to evacuate the area or face arrest.. This, despite the fact that the Civil Administration itself recognizes this area (In Area C of West Bank) as Palestinian-owned land and even though no settlers have provided any evidence otherwise. Without being able to work their land, these Palestinian communities cannot maintain their basic livelihoods, let alone enjoy freedom of movement and their basic human rights.

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Most Jews migrated by choice to Palestine. They were encouraged and given incentives to move to Palestine. There was hardly any problems with the Jews in the Arab world until around the 30's when Zionist migration accelerated and word got around that the Jews were confiscating Arab land in Palestine. It was due to the Zionist colonization of Palestine that things went sour between the Arabs and the Jews.

The main "incentives" were being forceably ejected or leaving under threat of violence or worse. Israel took in these penniless refugees, often without even any clothing.

You also realize that before 1948, there were close to 1,000,000 Arabs in what is now known as Israel and around 700,000 of them became refugees after fleeing the war and ultimately, being expelled by the Jews. As bud has pointed out, over 500 Palestinian villages were destroyed by Jewish militias and terrorist groups in what is now known as Israel and the 700,000 Palestinians were never allowed to go back to their homes, creating world's biggest refugee group.

Why couldn't other Arab countries take in refugees the way that Israel took in expelled Jews?
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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