punked Posted January 18, 2013 Report Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) And I asked specifically, which sensible gun laws, specifically, aren't being enforced - and what proof do you have that they aren't? How about back round checks. Know how I know that isn't being enforced? Gun show loophole. AFT use to investigate this but that was before the NRA got an amendment inserted in the Patriot act and no one has been appointed to head the AFT from that time onward because the NRA doesn't want that government organization to actually work so they found a way to break it. You know kinda of like that law they got passed where any study done on guns is only allowed to have a conclusion if it is pro gun. You know that one agreed with. Edited January 18, 2013 by punked Quote
eyeball Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 The NRA...their answer to every problem is more guns. The NRA is a big part of the problem. Just out of curiosity, what's their opinion regarding drug use? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Just out of curiosity, what's their opinion regarding drug use? Guns as the answer to drug use is the policy of the Attorney General, isn't it? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Plenty of firearms are still available. No on needs 30 round magazines or assault weapons. Want a gun? Go get one! Can't get the one That turns you on? Boohoo. It doesnt mean it violates the 2 nd amendment. Hence Obama is going to take away some types of guns....Like I was saying Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Just out of curiosity, what's their opinion regarding drug use? More guns will take care of that problem the only reason people use drugs is because they don't have enough guns. Quote
Pliny Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) What is needed is a good education on guns. People who are afraid of loud noises or complain of them are not someone you should consult about 2nd amendment rights. People who wish to see no one having a gun are not people you should consult on 2nd amendment rights. People who are afraid of people having guns should not be consulted regarding the 2nd amendment. Government administrations that attempt to re-interpret the 2nd amendment or try to say in it inapplicable in today's world should be removed from office. The 2nd amendment allows individuals to protect themselves as individuals against criminality that threatens their person or property but its primary purpose is to protect citizens from a tyrannical government. People that wish to ban guns may have a point but they don't realize that criminals don't obey laws nor that governments can become tyrannical. Edited January 19, 2013 by Pliny Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 True....the Senate Majority Leader (Democrat Harry Reid) was re-elected in a close Nevada campaign partly on strong support from the NRA. Reid is a long time gun rights supporter. Advantage "gun nuts". Yup, and a number of other Democrats in the Senate are in much the same boat.........Even the AWB's sponsor, Senator Feinstein, is a CCW holder, and has been since the Mayor of San Francisco & and gay rights activist Harvey Milk were assassinated………Her concealed handgun is ok, but the people’s semi-autos are dangerous…… Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Derek you mean the guy who wants armed guards, not police but just some armed guy in schools? Yah I bet he is a member. http://www.mlive.com...ml#incart_river Where did I state that? I’ve clearly stated that I’d personally prefer police, but ultimately the individual schools and counties should decide what best fits them. Quote
dre Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 The 2nd amendment allows individuals to protect themselves as individuals against criminality that threatens their person or property but its primary purpose is to protect citizens from a tyrannical government. No its purpose was to allow for armed militias. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Pliny Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 No its purpose was to allow for armed militias. The "right to bear arms shall not be infringed". Whether or not it was to allow for armed militias it was primarily included to counter tyrannny. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Hence Obama is going to take away some types of guns....Like I was saying Like tanks? Obama says you can't have a tank. It's just a gun on wheels what a dictator. Derek wants a tank give him one and no background check because the NRA hates those. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Like tanks? Obama says you can't have a tank. It's just a gun on wheels what a dictator. Derek wants a tank give him one and no background check because the NRA hates those. A person can own a tank in the US...... Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 .... give him one and no background check because the NRA hates those. Really. The NRA hates background checks? Then perhaps you could try explaining this: NRA President: Group Supportive Of Tighter Background Checks Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 A person can own a tank in the US...... Only if you Register them with the US government. Remind me again you are against gun registration right? Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Really. The NRA hates background checks? Then perhaps you could try explaining this: NRA President: Group Supportive Of Tighter Background Checks Actions speak loader then words. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Actions speak loader then words. Yep. Their actions do speak louder than your words. Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Yep. Their actions do speak louder than your words. Yes so them being against closing the gun show loop hole kinda makes you look like a blind no nothing doesn't ior you have justification for that? Maybe facts can make it look like you know nothing about the NRA hates and it's actions and not its words. Yes it can, in April they opposed and used their lobby to kill a bill in Colorado which would have made it so state background checks had to be performed before anyone bought a gun. So yes they talk out one side of their mouth to the public but theiractions ddon'tssupport anything f you claim they do. I could care less what they say what they do and the power they use from their lobby to block sain laws and push crazy ones is to much. Stop being ignorant. Btw I have provided examples consistently and all I get from you is "yes they did that but but but they say this"] Again I could care less what they say what do they do? Edited January 19, 2013 by punked Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Only if you Register them with the US government. Remind me again you are against gun registration right? Only a moron would draw such a parallel between a T-72 and rifle……….As to registration, yes, I do oppose it for firearms, with that said, there’s a big difference between one State requiring the registration of a gun used for CCW, and another State (or the Federal Government) banning such gun. Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Only a moron would draw such a parallel between a T-72 and rifle……….As to registration, yes, I do oppose it for firearms, with that said, there’s a big difference between one State requiring the registration of a gun used for CCW, and another State (or the Federal Government) banning such gun. Only a moron would draw suh a parallel between an assault weapon and a rifle..... Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 BTW I know American women could never believe the NRA would lie about their positions even when presented with many instances where they did so i offer another one to make her look foolish. Well that commercial where the NRA said Obama's daughters go to school with armed guards and he is an evil hypocrite IS A LIE! Obama's daughters school does not have armed guards but it might have get some now that the NRA has painted the school as a target for crazy mass killers with guns. Quote
punked Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Yep. Their actions do speak louder than your words. You mean the actions of lying time and time again and you buying into it? Yah those actions speak to them being liars. Quote
Canuckistani Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 AWB good to go..........No longer a baby killer Which is why all semi-automatic rifles should be banned. Civilians have no need for them. Quote
Canuckistani Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 More guns will take care of that problem the only reason people use drugs is because they don't have enough guns. I always thought that drugs will get you thru a period of no guns better than guns will get you thru a period of no drugs. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Only a moron would draw suh a parallel between an assault weapon and a rifle..... Only a moron would call an AR-15 an assault rifle. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 19, 2013 Report Posted January 19, 2013 Which is why all semi-automatic rifles should be banned. Civilians have no need for them. Well, like BC and myself have said, the AR-15 won`t be banned........deal with it. Quote
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