punked Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 And my understanding it was just a lefty shot at the harpers. Speaking of harper it seems now he is in trouble fuor a photo op on a ATV in the yukon. It seems alot of people drive bikes in this area, but when harper jumps on one for 10 minutes , he is all over the news for destroying plant life. Sorry people ,but you will have to live with what you started. I have no idea what you are talking about and I think that is my point. Most on this board would like to raise the bar here while you have openly admitted you would rather lower it. Quote
waldo Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I'm so confused why several Harper Conservatives (Lunney, Goodyear... Harper!) just don't come straight out and, loudly and proudly, proclaim their Creationism! One would think their personal liberation and peace of mind would surely overcome any miniscule implications to/on the CPC party or active policy decision making. Quote
Wild Bill Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I'm so confused why several Harper Conservatives (Lunney, Goodyear... Harper!) just don't come straight out and, loudly and proudly, proclaim their Creationism! One would think their personal liberation and peace of mind would surely overcome any miniscule implications to/on the CPC party or active policy decision making. Well, the last one of that crowd to do that was Stockwell Day and he managed to destroy his party over it! Understandable if it spooked any others in their caucus. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Where did THAT come from? Im a staunch Tory supported and am completely removed from any religeopn and would not support a religeous based party. Ahhhh, your listening to those scientsts that were laid off due to waste and missmanagement.... I'm so confused why several Harper Conservatives (Lunney, Goodyear... Harper!) just don't come straight out and, loudly and proudly, proclaim their Creationism! One would think their personal liberation and peace of mind would surely overcome any miniscule implications to/on the CPC party or active policy decision making. Quote
waldo Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Well, the last one of that crowd to do that was Stockwell Day and he managed to destroy his party over it!Understandable if it spooked any others in their caucus. huh! Aren't you the guy trumpeting the need for transparency? Wasn't that you... using your head? Quote
waldo Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Where did THAT come from? Im a staunch Tory supported and am completely removed from any religeopn and would not support a religeous based party. well then... so long as their Creationism is... cloaked and under the covers, hey? Aren't you another of these full transparency guys? Quote
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Transparence i love... I live and thrive off of it.. Accountability is another one of my favorite things.. Thats why i continue to vote Tory.. Their ability to keep "a higher power" out of politics is the cornerstone to thier majority government(s). Oh, And i really "dig" financial prudence... and restraint.. Just look at whats happened to Ontario under Dalton.. The "Catholic" education Minister.. well then... so long as their Creationism is... cloaked and under the covers, hey? Aren't you another of these full transparency guys? Quote
waldo Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Transparence i love... I live and thrive off of it.. Accountability is another one of my favorite things.. Thats why i continue to vote Tory.. thanks... not that it wasn't clear before, your formal pronouncement offers full disclosure on the type/level/degree of self-serving transparency & accountability you... and Harper Conservatives favour! Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 thanks... not that it wasn't clear before, your formal pronouncement offers full disclosure on the type/level/degree of self-serving transparency & accountability you... and Harper Conservatives favour! Unbelievable. It's practically the single issue that unite (some) conservatives with those who aren't conservatives: the Harper government's lack of transparency. But then, Fletch 27 isn't being serious, but rather trying to be provocative, so it's moot..... Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 e.g: The Ship building contract. C'mon, give credit where credit is due.. Your bitterness is overwhelming And no, Im 100% serious.... The Tories are accountable, transparent.. The other parties are simply upset at the level of it! Its funny that it took Steve Harper to FINALLY bring this to Federal politics.. Its such an easy to understand policy.. A nice departure from the Libs. But lets not take away from the subject of "One year Later" after Jack.. The legacy of "openness"? Unbelievable. It's practically the single issue that unite (some) conservatives with those who aren't conservatives: the Harper government's lack of transparency. But then, Fletch 27 isn't being serious, but rather trying to be provocative, so it's moot..... Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 e.g: The Ship building contract. C'mon, give credit where credit is due.. Your bitterness is overwhelming You think that criticism of Harper is "bitterness"? Sycophancy is not a virtue, my good man. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Ahhhemm.. "You always think East Coast [when it comes to shipbuilding] It’s not the case,” Ms. Hubley says. “I’m an easterner, from Prince Edward Island, making the case for the West.” In tipping her hat to the Harper government for running a clear process, she is adding her voice to others, including Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae, who want more of the same. At Thursday’s Question Period, Mr. Rae asked Stephen Harper why he couldn’t use this same non-partisan competition for the purchase of “several billion dollars worth of new fighter jets for this country?” It was the Liberal Government to initiated the Contracts for the JSF! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/harpers-refreshing-approach-to-shipbuilding-contracts-gets-thumbs-up-from-lobbyist/article618494/ Another example of a clear and transparent Government.... You can say "sorry" now... Or your just "bitter" You think that criticism of Harper is "bitterness"? Sycophancy is not a virtue, my good man. Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Another example of a clear and transparent Government.... You can say "sorry" now... Or your just "bitter" So...you're "bitter" towards the NDP? The whole theme is absurd on its face. As is your profound sensitivity about criticism of leaders whom you admire. No, I'm afraid I can't quite get into that frame of mind. But thanks anyway! Edited August 23, 2012 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I am not bitter at all! Im not a fan of the NDP's policies,, that i can attest to. But I REALLY do not like the sheer lack of respect for the voting public. The lack of transparency (Jacks example) and accountability (Union Funding Fraud) should not be tollerated in this day and age.. There is nothing absurd about voting for clear, transparent and accountable Government.. The Majority of Canadians it seems felt the same way.. So...you're "bitter" towards the NDP? The whole theme is absurd on its face. As is your profound sensitivity about criticism of leaders whom you admire. No, I'm afraid I can't quite get into that frame of mind. But thanks anyway! Quote
Newfoundlander Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 One year since his death another MP leaves the party. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/new-democrat-mp-denise-savoie-to-resign-her-victoria-seat-for-personal-reasons-167219415.html Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I am not bitter at all! Im not a fan of the NDP's policies,, that i can attest to. Well, there...while this might seem monumentally implausible to you, there are those with whom you disagree who feel similarly, while in slightly different directions. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Looks like the fizz is running out of my orange Cruzz.. mutha, can i have anotha? One year since his death another MP leaves the party. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/new-democrat-mp-denise-savoie-to-resign-her-victoria-seat-for-personal-reasons-167219415.html Quote
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Yes, thats Politics.. Thats how intelligent conversations can happen without the name calling! Well, there...while this might seem monumentally implausible to you, there are those with whom you disagree who feel similarly, while in slightly different directions. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Another friggin Dipper won't be transparent about their health. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/victoria-mp-denise-savoie-retiring-after-health-warning/article4495704/?cmpid=rss1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Quote
WWWTT Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Posted August 23, 2012 One year since his death another MP leaves the party. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/new-democrat-mp-denise-savoie-to-resign-her-victoria-seat-for-personal-reasons-167219415.html Yes this is someone who is putting their health first! Jack Layton I am sure was warned from his doctors to do the same but he refused. If the Layton family refuses to disclose the type/area of cancer he succumbed to then that is their business. Even if he died of AIDS then that would be their business and his lifestyle would have no impact on his abilities! Myself personally I would have left politics and enjoyed the rest of my days on Earth.But this guy and his family felt pretty strong or maybe are just stubborn,I don't know which? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Posted August 23, 2012 They can say what cancer - his wife and family know - they are just choosing not to say what kind of cancer; and the reason given is that they don't want to discourage others who are fighting the same form of cancer. Yes this is possible! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Grasping for power at any means including lies to Quebec. Yes this is someone who is putting their health first! Jack Layton I am sure was warned from his doctors to do the same but he refused. If the Layton family refuses to disclose the type/area of cancer he succumbed to then that is their business. Even if he died of AIDS then that would be their business and his lifestyle would have no impact on his abilities! Myself personally I would have left politics and enjoyed the rest of my days on Earth.But this guy and his family felt pretty strong or maybe are just stubborn,I don't know which? WWWTT Quote
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 YEs! Its possible!! So is a deadly disease picked up at a Rub-N-Tug!!!!!! Again, a "little transparence" would be nice.. Thats all we are asking. You wwwoot would ask for NOTHING less from a Tory.... Yes this is possible! WWWTT Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 YEs! Its possible!! So is a deadly disease picked up at a Rub-N-Tug!!!!!! Again, a "little transparence" would be nice.. Thats all we are asking. You wwwoot would ask for NOTHING less from a Tory.... I wouldn't ask for any such thing. It's not relevant. And only callous people with poor taste would worry about it. So...there we are! Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 And the trash from Vicki-leack was just music to your ears? A marriage that falls apart is fair? No, I think the request for information is fair. It lends itself to what the values of the Party are.. Very fair Quote
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