NUMBERED Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) Tell ya what, post it for us. How bout you just go back a few pages and read the quote that the initial response doubting the statements was, as that is the quote. Who would prosecute the Queen. Herself? She cannot be prosecuted (even for mass murder on home soil), nor does she require a drivers licence,passport,nor pay taxes (although she does) I dunno about that, systematically the Queen is the head of the Judiciary as well as Executive but she would have to utilize reserve powers and that is iffy. Since Judges are in sitting representing the Queen then technically there is nothing preventing a trial of the Queen systematically since she has a name Elizibeth Windsor (actually much longer), as well the crown attorneys office or a private prosecutor which is still law for anyone to act as a special prosecutor with leave of the court. There are serious doubts to the immunity factor in the modern era as everyone is equal, and the premise is everyone equal under the law. She does have a passport I beleive (I could be mistaken on this - she may actually have multiple passports - I'm not sure about the drivers license thing, and the taxes thing I"m also not sure about - I'd love to see your sources for these infobits) Lots of heads of state have immunity from prosecution but usually prosecution only occurs after being deposed, or there being impeachment processes prior to other forms of legal action -- although there are civil actions. She would be able to more or less veto her conviction though using the royal prerogative. Although I'm not sure if thte queen could act on her own advise in a non reserve powers manner due to it being a political action to act independently. Of course fitting the house gaurd in the cell with her would probably be difficult to manage without expanding the cell. I find it hard to beleive she doesn't have a passport as she has travelled to the US, and no one gets into the US without a passport except perhaps refugees and Mexicans. Even though her uncle the king married an American I'm pretty damn sure she isn't American. Edited August 14, 2012 by NUMBERED Quote
Wild Bill Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 Yeah like I'm going to end up in your backroom tied to a wall. Well, your silence confirms my suspicion and your post raises some more! What the hell are you talking about? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
guyser Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) How bout you just go back a few pages and resd the quote that the initial response doubting the statements was, as that is the quote. I did, and nothing there supports your facts. I dunno about that, Thats ok, I am sure about it. Sooner or later a guy by the name of g bambino will be along to school you on the Monarchy. Trust his posts, he is all knowing about this, not to mention he will agree with me in principle. systematically the Queen is the head of the Judiciary as well as Executive but she would have to utilize reserve powers and that is iffy. Since Judges are in sitting representing the Queen then technically there is nothing preventing a trial of the Queen systematically since she has a name Elizibeth Windsor (actually much longer Technically, realistically,l;egally, the Queen cannot be tried. Got it? Good. There are serious doubts to the immunity factor in the modern era as everyone is equal, and the premise is everyone equal under the law You may have doubts, even serious ones too. But make no mistake, she cannot be tried as Queen. She could be forced to abdicate the Crown and then be charged but that is different. . She does have a passport I beleive (I could be mistaken on this - she may actually have multiple passports - I'm not sure about the drivers license thing, and the taxes thing I"m also not sure about - I'd love to see your sources for these infobits) All passports for commonwealth nations are issued in the Queens name. She does not issue one to herself . One does not need a licence to drive on her own property and since she does not drive for any other function..... She would be able to more or less veto her conviction though using the royal prerogative. Although I'm not sure if thte queen could act on her own advise in a non reserve powers manner due to it being a political action to act independently. Of course fitting the house gaurd in the cell with her would probably be difficult to manage without expanding the cell. No she wouldnt, the Queen cannot be tried. I find it hard to beleive she doesn't have a passport as she has travelled to the US, and no one gets into the US without a passport except perhaps refugees and Mexicans. Even though her uncle the king married an American I'm pretty damn sure she isn't American. I find it hard that someone would think the Queen lines up at customs and gets the pat down like a normal schmuck. Probably flies coach too. Hope she brings her own peanuts. Edited August 14, 2012 by guyser Quote
Wild Bill Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 One does not need a licence to drive on her own property and since she does not drive for any other function..... Just tossing an extra point in here, guyser. When the Queen was a young girl during WWII she became a fully qualified driver and motor pool mechanic in the British Army. Even today I'm sure she would have no problem taking about a carburetor. Assuming you could find a carburetor today, of course! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
guyser Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 Just tossing an extra point in here, guyser. When the Queen was a young girl during WWII she became a fully qualified driver and motor pool mechanic in the British Army. Even today I'm sure she would have no problem taking about a carburetor. Assuming you could find a carburetor today, of course! Good point WB. Maybe she had one long those years ago, but being Royal, I kind of doubt it. And.....I have a carb on my boat. Allows me to repair probs since no computer onboard to screw me up. Carb,alt, water pump distr cap and all good to go Quote
Wild Bill Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 Good point WB. Maybe she had one long those years ago, but being Royal, I kind of doubt it. And.....I have a carb on my boat. Allows me to repair probs since no computer onboard to screw me up. Carb,alt, water pump distr cap and all good to go Yeah, the thing about older technology is that it is far easier to maintain and service, particularly if you are stranded out in the boonies. Imagine being way out in the bush and your late model truck blows the onboard computer. Start walking! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
NUMBERED Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 Well, your silence confirms my suspicion and your post raises some more! What the hell are you talking about? banned for the harper bernardo and williams 2 economists joke. Quote
guyser Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 banned for the harper bernardo and williams 2 economists joke. ...and soon again for outing yourself . Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 In all honesty I think that only a few months should be sufficient to determine if someone is a real threat. I strangely don't think Bernardo is, I think based upon the media he is a sexual predator. A sexual predator; and a sadistic torturer; and a multiple murderer. He's the poster-boy for the violent and dangerous criminal. Heck, I agree with you, that most criminals are ordinary and not awful people at all. But folks like Bernardo..they're the worst of the worst. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
PIK Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 The queen still drives a old landrover on her own property and has no problems helping the mechanics with it,when needed. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Wild Bill Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 banned for the harper bernardo and williams 2 economists joke. I still don't know what you are talking about. Where you banned? If so, I had nothing to do with it. I haven't reported anyone for months. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
NUMBERED Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) I still don't know what you are talking about. Where you banned? If so, I had nothing to do with it. I haven't reported anyone for months. I didn't say it was you, I just said the silence is explained due to the account being banned for the harper bernardo williams 2 economists joke. Harper Bernardo and Williams are at an economics conference when the case study walks in. It is an attractive 30 some female with teenage daughters. So the question is asked: How do we respond to improving the economy using this person as an example. Williams goes first: I say we rape her for what she's worth to improve our situation and take her panties so we have net material gain holdings. Bernardo follows: I say we rape her children and film it so we can use the tapes as a future commodity. Harper is the last one to speak: I say we rape her and her children for all they're worth to improve our situation she's clearly a liberal public service employee. for reference purposes only. Edited August 14, 2012 by NUMBERED Quote
Wild Bill Posted August 14, 2012 Report Posted August 14, 2012 I didn't say it was you, I just said the silence is explained due to the account being banned for the harper bernardo williams 2 economists joke. for reference purposes only. That is truly disgusting! Also very low brow and partisan. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Hydraboss Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 I didn't say it was you, I just said the silence is explained due to the account being banned for the harper bernardo williams 2 economists joke. for reference purposes only. You are one sick fuck. No wonder I rarely post here anymore. People like you have come to the board. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
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