MiddleClassCentrist Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Your original post is just one long personal attack. Pointing out that men go where women are, not the opposite. And that it is silly to put positive spin on families arriving in Alberta without proper infrastructure to support them. Yep. Definately personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Sigh...Manitoba is in the west, where as a boy he was raised. you can dance all you want, but the embarassment is yours to own, sausagefest is not a slag, but slang (note the 'n' ) Yep fer sure Guyser. And that just invalidates everything (rolls eyes). Keep in the shallow end of the pool where you're safe. Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Wrong. Oh so obviously worng and if you look at practically any country in the world you can see you're wrong. These attitudes are passed down from generation to generation. We learn to hate each other by the osmosis of living with our peers.Yes that's right MiddleClassCentrist, my aren't you intelligent. Policies and events from anything longer than 30 years ago couldn't possibly come into play now, that's why the American South still gets along so well with the rest of the country. Sure. That's why Ireland is a country where everyone gets along so well, you know, because things that happen longer than 30 years ago suddenly become irrelevant. Watching you grasping at straws is hilarious. You could make the connection that I said that it is retarded. Not that it doesn't happen. Um what? Oh right. You edited out this part: You could use fewer personal attacks to show that you were actually intelligent. I was just going to ask you to identify the personal attack in the quote you made. Obviously you decided there wasn't any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Pointing out that men go where women are, not the opposite. And that it is silly to put positive spin on families arriving in Alberta without proper infrastructure to support them. Yep. Definately personal. Yep once again you try to cover this part: I read this morning that young families are moving west (with positive spin of course). Yet the article talked about how the infrastructure hasn't been updated (likely won't be under their supposedly conservative government) to support them. Yes, "Go West" young families so that you can suffer through infrastructure that hasn't been updated to support you.--- As an aside, I do know a girl who moved west. She had an STD with no cure, only treatment. GO GET 'ER Western Men! lol. Oh fer sure MCC, nothing but rational discourse there...no anti-Alberta rhetoric there at all LOL!! Oh and I taught you this already, going to have to teach you this again I guess: When your population jumps 25% in 4 years it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep the infrastructure up to date. Please let me know what it is about that you can't seem to understand. Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Yep fer sure Guyser. And that just invalidates everything (rolls eyes). Keep in the shallow end of the pool where you're safe. Ok, for the record you think Manitoba is in the east? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Ok, for the record you think Manitoba is in the east? I see you can't argue what people actually say, but instead can only argue what they wish they had said. I'm sure it's much easier for you that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Nope. It exists because you're a bigot, born and raised. That's why you put in this last little bit: Oh yeah. Just sensible anti-propaganda there. Of course I already pointed this out, and you pretend to "reply" to it by completely ignoring it and just stamping your feet and repeating yourself. Your hate for the West is obvious. Go on... Your ranting is amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Yep once again you try to cover this part: Oh fer sure MCC, nothing but rational discourse there...no anti-Alberta rhetoric there at all LOL!! Oh and I taught you this already, going to have to teach you this again I guess: When your population jumps 25% in 4 years it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep the infrastructure up to date. Please let me know what it is about that you can't seem to understand. Did you know that your extremely socialist provincial government spends more per person than Ontario AND has more public servants? Edited June 1, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Go on... Your ranting is amusing. Yes keep pretending to save face. 1. Bigoted attitudes towards the West find their origins in the reaction by English Ontario towards the early immigration of Europeans to the Western provinces. This is obvious for anyone who reads. 2. That you deny any of this exists is hilarious considering we're in this thread designed to take shots at Alberta (even starting just with the title). This is also obvious no matter how many times yuo stamp your feet and insist it was only created for level-headed discourse. 3. That Stifton was born in Western Ontario and moved to Manitoba doesn't change a thing. 4. MiddleClassCentrist ignores the answer to his main complaint, that it is silly to move out West because of the lackluster infrastructure ignores the reality that any province, even the mighty can't0-ever-do-anything-wrong province of Ontario will find it difficult if not impossible to keep infrastructure up to date if the population grows 25% in 4 years. You don't have a witty answer for that do you MiddleClassCentrist? No, just more bull remarks you think are witty in hopes of saving face. Grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Oh and I taught you this already, going to have to teach you this again I guess: When your population jumps 25% in 4 years it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep the infrastructure up to date. Please let me know what it is about that you can't seem to understand. Did you know that your extremely socialist provincial government spends more per person than Ontario AND has more public servants? Wake me when you explain how your reply here has anything to do with anything. Oh and "per person"? That's happens pretty easy when you're comparing 2.4 million with 20 million. Try building 10000 km worth of road and highway overnight smart guy and see what happens. If Ontario had a population surge of 25% in 4 years they'd be facing the same infrastructure problems. That's the obvious point your bigotry forces you to ignore. Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Wake me when you explain how your reply here has anything to do with anything. Oh and "per person"? That's happens pretty easy when you're comparing 2.4 million with 20 million. Try building 10000 km worth of road and highway overnight smart guy and see what happens. If Ontario had a population surge of 25% in 4 years they'd be facing the same infrastructure problems. That's the obvious point your bigotry forces you to ignore. Did you know that Albertans are more likely to have Genital Chlymadia than Ontarians? By a factor of 1.65! 0.00172 infection rate in Ontario (1.72 per thousand Ontarians) 0.00286 infection rate in Alberta (2.86 per thousand Albertans) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Wake me when you explain how your reply here has anything to do with anything. Oh and "per person"? That's happens pretty easy when you're comparing 2.4 million with 20 million. Try building 10000 km worth of road and highway overnight smart guy and see what happens. If Ontario had a population surge of 25% in 4 years they'd be facing the same infrastructure problems. That's the obvious point your bigotry forces you to ignore. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE POPULATION OF YOUR PROVINCE? I'm starting to doubt that you live in Alberta. 3.6 Million in Alberta 12.8 Million in Ontario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 All this bantering aside. I have nothing against the people who live out west. I'm sure they are great people. I have something against the propaganda in the MSM that downs Ontario/The East and Ups Albera/The West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) I have something against the propaganda in the MSM that downs Ontario/The East and Ups Albera/The West. The thing is, most of what the MSM reports is not against the east per se, but reporting what the west thinks. Seriously, it isnt much to get in any lather over. It could be worse, we could own the sausagefest instead of the west. But new found riches always makes the recipient proud, proud enough to crow about. The east crowed a hundred years ago and grew up and out of it. Takes time but will happen. Edited June 1, 2012 by guyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Oh and I taught you this already, going to have to teach you this again I guess: When your population jumps 25% in 4 years it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep the infrastructure up to date. Please let me know what it is about that you can't seem to understand. huh! - Alberta’s population grew 10.8% between the 2006 and 2011 censuses. - Alberta population increase 2007-to-2011: 266,000 - Ontario population increase 2007-to-2011: 580,000 you're welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) huh! - Alberta’s population grew 10.8% between the 2006 and 2011 censuses. - Alberta population increase 2007-to-2011: 266,000 - Ontario population increase 2007-to-2011: 580,000 you're welcome Oh okay. I'm wrong. It was 10% and not 25%. At least I can admit it when my details are off.Ontario population increase of 580,000 in a province of 12,891,000 million is only 1/22nd growth, or less than 5%, so one wonders why you think that's a point. Not surprisingly neither you nor MiddleClassCentralist will address my main point: If your province experienced a 10% surge in population in 4 years it would have the same infrastructure problems. Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Did you know that Albertans are more likely to have Genital Chlymadia than Ontarians? By a factor of 1.65! 0.00172 infection rate in Ontario (1.72 per thousand Ontarians) 0.00286 infection rate in Alberta (2.86 per thousand Albertans) Andthis has relevance because...oh right: no relevance at all. Just cherry picking stats to make Alberta look bad. No bigotry or regional rivalry there. I could do the same thing, sit here all day cherry picking stats that make Ontario look bad but that's not my point....obviously it is the point for you, which proves everything I've said. Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 But new found riches always makes the recipient proud, proud enough to crow about. The east crowed a hundred years ago and grew up and out of it. Yeah keep telling yourself that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I'm starting to doubt that you live in Alberta. BTW I never actually claimed I did. That you think I did somewhere along the lines just proves your knack for false assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Did you know that Albertans are more likely to have Genital Chlymadia than Ontarians? By a factor of 1.65! 0.00172 infection rate in Ontario (1.72 per thousand Ontarians) 0.00286 infection rate in Alberta (2.86 per thousand Albertans) Oh I see, so this: As an aside, I do know a girl who moved west. She had an STD with no cure, only treatment. GO GET 'ER Western Men! lol. Was supposed to be a representation of this: Did you know that Albertans are more likely to have Genital Chlymadia than Ontarians? 0.00172 infection rate in Ontario (1.72 per thousand Ontarians) 0.00286 infection rate in Alberta (2.86 per thousand Albertans) Yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 But new found riches always makes the recipient proud, proud enough to crow about. The east crowed a hundred years ago and grew up and out of it. Sure that totally explains this thread designed only to take cheap shots at Alberta started by a person from all-grown-up-now Ontario. Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Sure that totally explains this thread designed only to take cheap shots at Alberta started by a person from all-grown-up-now Ontario. Sure. Gosh buttercup...could you take the same post of mine and respond a 3rd time to it? And sadly, you cannot see a backhand compliment when you get one. I said the praries are rich (ya know which ones those are?) and crow about the riches, which is pretty damn true and you know it. As jack used to opine , get back out there and keep pumping that oil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Oh and I taught you this already, going to have to teach you this again I guess: When your population jumps 25% in 4 years it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep the infrastructure up to date. Please let me know what it is about that you can't seem to understand. huh! - Alberta’s population grew 10.8% between the 2006 and 2011 censuses. - Alberta population increase 2007-to-2011: 266,000 - Ontario population increase 2007-to-2011: 580,000 you're welcome Oh okay. I'm wrong. It was 10% and not 25%. At least I can admit it when my details are off. Ontario population increase of 580,000 in a province of 12,891,000 million is only 1/22nd growth, or less than 5%, so one wonders why you think that's a point. Not surprisingly neither you nor MiddleClassCentralist will address my main point: If your province experienced a 10% surge in population in 4 years it would have the same infrastructure problems. what factors allow you to so dismiss an Ontario population rise 2.5 times that of Alberta? so... now that you acknowledge your error, how less significant are Alberta's difficulties in managing required infrastructure? But hey now, when the affectionately titled, 'King Ralph' openly admitted his government... had no plan... just exactly where would you like to lay the blame for what you presume on Alberta's difficulty, hey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) what factors allow you to so dismiss an Ontario population rise 2.5 times that of Alberta? Well first there's the dishonest factor of you trying to switch an amount of people for a percentage of growth which is what we're talking about and what counts when talking about an increase in needed infrastructure. Alberta's is 10% of its population, and Ontarios' is less than 5%. Yes Ontario has grown by 2.5 times the number of people Alberta has grown by, but they also have 5.2 times the population from which to draw tax money from. Any reason you chose to dismiss that? lol!We can assume Ontario had the infrastructure for X amount of people as did Alberta. If X number of people grows by 10% that's harder to make changes than if it only grows by 5%. The ratio is all that counts since there was already exisiting supporting infrastructure for X number of people. You use a classic slight of hand by addressing the specific number of people when ratio is all that matters in this case. My god. I mean do I really have to explain that to you Waldo? Or did you already know this and you're just dishonestly continuing to yak for the heck of it? I actually suspect you already understand this and don't really have anything intelligent to say but feel compelled to yak anyways. so... now that you acknowledge your error, how less significant are Alberta's difficulties in managing required infrastructure? No error, or at least the not the one in your imagination. It is telling though that once I admit a minor error that you leap at the opportunity to dishonestly cast the error as something else entirely. Like I say: no debating with those who can't be honest.Ontarios growth is less than 5%, while Alberta's was 10% in the same time period. It's obvious to anyone honest or intelligent that Ontario would only require less than 5% infrastructure increase while Alberta would require 10%. Which is higher Waldo? >5% or 10%? :lol: :lol: Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Sure that totally explains this thread designed only to take cheap shots at Alberta started by a person from all-grown-up-now Ontario. Sure. Gosh buttercup...blah blah blah blah-diddly-blah? Blah blah blah Alberta sucks and Ontario's the shizzle Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah-diddly-blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah! Wake me when you say something worthwhile princess. Edited June 1, 2012 by Claudius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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