bleeding heart Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 I wasn't referring to high income earners when I said punked would deny that, I was referring to them being able to expand from their 2011 vote share. Sorry, Newfoundlander, I don't get what you mean. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
punked Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 I wasn't referring to high income earners when I said punked would deny that, I was referring to them being able to expand from their 2011 vote share. Still don't see why. If tomorrow an election was held in a ridding that has always been between the Liberals or the NDP no one would expect the Conservatives to be competitive in that race. You are playing an expectations game that no one would agree with you about. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Posted May 27, 2012 Still don't see why. If tomorrow an election was held in a ridding that has always been between the Liberals or the NDP no one would expect the Conservatives to be competitive in that race. You are playing an expectations game that no one would agree with you about. Nobody would have expected the NDP to be competitive in almost every, if not every, riding in Quebec but with their support rising they were. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Posted May 27, 2012 Sorry, Newfoundlander, I don't get what you mean. Punked says that the NDP shouldn't be expected to gain support in the riding, despite their support in Ontario being up a fair bit, because they haven't been competitive their before and because the household income is high. I think they should be expected to gain in support beyond their 15% in the riding because they hold neighboring ones and won over 20% in the two other Etobicoke ridings. I said that any Dipper would try to downplay their chances in the riding after the Forum Research poll showed them at 14%. Quote
punked Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) I think you can give the NDP a pass on this one. You know cause of them way over performing the bar you set for them in Toronto Danforth. Considering you saying the Liberals had a shot and they got killed by 30 points. Again one riding doesn't make or break a party but you making wild claims every by-election is getting old. I didn't say the Liberals were done after that election even though you were predicting a close race for weeks and how it was the end of the NDP. Some ridings have a history, demographics, and are not swing ridings. So please just stop with the ridiculousness. Edited May 27, 2012 by punked Quote
Newfoundlander Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) I think you can give the NDP a pass on this one. You know cause of them way over performing the bar you set for them in Toronto Danforth. Considering you saying the Liberals had a shot and they got killed by 30 points. Again one riding doesn't make or break a party but you making wild claims every by-election is getting old. I didn't say the Liberals were done after that election even though you were predicting a close race for weeks and how it was the end of the NDP. I figured the Liberals could have won with a George Smitherman. The Liberals were poorly organized in Toronto Danforth and should have been able to perform better and take votes from the NDP. They still increased their share of the vote though. Edited May 27, 2012 by Newfoundlander Quote
punked Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 I figured the Liberals could have won with a George Smitherman. The Liberals were poorly organized in Toronto Danforth and should have been able to perform better and take votes from the NDP. They still increased their share of the vote though. Yet they didn't take anything from the NDP. Again you point out circumstances have a lot do with winning an election. That is all I have been saying. Plenty of NDP voters will jump on board the Liberal train on this one to take one seat away from Harper. Why are you pretending there are some other weird factors at work. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Posted May 27, 2012 Yet they didn't take anything from the NDP. Again you point out circumstances have a lot do with winning an election. That is all I have been saying. Plenty of NDP voters will jump on board the Liberal train on this one to take one seat away from Harper. Why are you pretending there are some other weird factors at work. We're not going to agree on this so there's not much sense to comment on it further. According to you there won't be a by-election anyways. Quote
punked Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) We're not going to agree on this so there's not much sense to comment on it further. According to you there won't be a by-election anyways. I stick to that. We will find out tomorrow the Cons have until tomorrow to appeal the ruling. Edited May 27, 2012 by punked Quote
Newfoundlander Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Posted May 27, 2012 I stick to that. We'll find out in the next 24 hours I guess. Quote
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