Ouellet resigns

[idealisttotheend]

Globe story

Mr. Ouellet "resigned" after it was revealed that he had spent more than 300K on travel and hospitality last year and has a history of not properly accounting for the money. He also tends to hire his friends for key positions and spend millions on unsigned contracts.

I disagree with all the above practices but I think the interesting dynamic is this. With over 60,000 employees Canada Post is the counrty's 44th largest empoloyer. I wonder if the practices Mr. Ouellet is being fired for occur in the country's 43rd largest employer or in the 45th. Is it Mr. Martin's intention to hold Crowns to a higher standard than private companies? Should this be true. If it is true that public companies be held to higher ethical standars than why don't we have more of them?

I wonder also how much of this is motivated by a desire to punish the Chretienites for their role in the scandal and just pushing them aside in general.

[Bakunin]

there where a group of people near chretiens. the pdg of national society like post canada and via rail, where given to people near chretiens and they were all involved in the sponsorship scandal.

[maplesyrup]

There was then and there is now. Society evolves.

As Chretien said: "What's a few million bucks when you are trying to keep your country together".

As has often been said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Anytime there is money involved there will be corruption.

Often we are not the honest goody two shoes we like to project.

[donvonbra]

As Chretien said: "What's a few million bucks when you are trying to keep your country together".

When Chretien left the Bloc were a spent force. The sponsorship scandal gave them a new life. Save the country? He has saved the Bloc?

dvb

[Bakunin]

The money for sponsorship was givin to companies that gave back a part of the money to the liberal party. Those companies where paid to increase the visibility of canada in quebec particulary stuff like festival. In 1995 the referendum was lost at ~ 49,4% a survey announced while the 2004 federal election showed that if there is a referendum on sovregnty 50% of the people would have vote yes.

[maplesyrup]

It is of no consequence. When is the next election in Quebec? Three years from now?

Sovereignists must be very frustrated at the moment because they cannot call another referendum. By the time the next one rolls around, if there is a next one, things will have changed again.

[Bakunin]

after 1995 it dropped till around 1998 and now its going up.

i think in theory your right but in practice its another game, but it will all depend on jean charest and paul martin. I think charest case is hopeless, he promised something like 4 billions taxs cut, and last years he didn't cut of 1 billions, he raised electricity price and childcare price and barely made it to deficit zero by selling some provincial holding.

For paul martin he can't be lower than he is right now but he will have to work hard to get back supporter because no body trust him anymore. Concrete stuff like decentralization because right now, journalist and media are quite frustrated of what happend and lets say it, liberal supporters are not well seen, nobody defend them in the public place.

[August1991]

I wonder if the practices Mr. Ouellet is being fired for occur in the country's 43rd largest employer or in the 45th.

Idealist, I do not know who are the 43rd or 45th largest employers. But Canada Post, as a Crown, is a State Monopoly. If you want to mail a small envelope in Canada, you must use Canada Post. You cannot choose a private courrier service. (DHL, Fedex etc cannot accept your small envelope. They must transport it in a big heavy envelope. That's the law.)

The money for sponsorship was givin to companies that gave back a part of the money to the liberal party. Those companies where paid to increase the visibility of canada in quebec particulary stuff like festival. In 1995 the referendum was lost at ~ 49,4% a survey announced while the 2004 federal election showed that if there is a referendum on sovregnty 50% of the people would have vote yes.

I agree with Bakunin 100%.

ROC should understand why the Liberals did not win in Quebec. In Quebec, the Liberals (ie politically active federalists) are perceived as thieves. But since ROC wants to keep Quebec in Canada, Ontario voted again for the Liberals.

Note to Bakunin: I think the yes voters know what they are voting for. The Claude Morin etapisme was a fraud.