Conservatives vs Progressive Conservatives

[waldo]

...the Alberta PC party will die just like the federal PC party did. Why? Because it's not the least bit conservative in any way, shape or form, and Alberta has a very strong conservative streak.

care to offer an example of a "real conservative" Federal ruling government? You know, one not in name only.

in line with most Canadians, I'd suggest Albertans are more progressive than most pundits and other parts of Canada accept/realize. Given the Liberal brand was/is so tarnished in Alberta, progressives, to some degree, had/have a somewhat "forced" affinity to the Alberta PCs.

[dre]

care to offer an example of a "real conservative" Federal ruling government? You know, one not in name only.

Sure... The government of Iran. The government of Saudi Arabia.

In terms of the west though its all relative. Our "conservatives" are some of the most liberal people on earth. In relative terms though all they really are is "more conservative" then westerns who are "less conservative".

[Newfoundlander]

And as it proves itself and shakes off the newbie mistakes, the Alberta PC party will die just like the federal PC party did. Why? Because it's not the least bit conservative in any way, shape or form, and Alberta has a very strong conservative streak.

Doubt it. I read an interesting article about the Alberta PCs a while ago, it argued that they have basically been a centrist party that changes with the times and the public. They were more conservative in the 90's because all governments were more conservative after the recession. They are more progressive now because despite the recession Alberts is doing great and many people want investments in infrastructure, education and healthcare. I believe it was Don Martin who said that Alberta is not at all as conservative as it was. If Redford doesn't work out and needs to be replaced in a few years they will likely go with a more conservative leader. It's possible the Wildrose could form a government, buyI don't think the PCs will die.

[MiddleClassCentrist]

I would not likely vote for the current conservatives at some point.

I would likely vote for Progressive Conservatives at some point.

[Bryan]

It's already been mentioned, but it bears repeating: if there was a split among conservatives, and/or a new conservative entity formed, it would be because the current Conservative party of Canada had veered too far left, and one to the right of it would emerge. Any notion, even as a hypothetical, that a conservative party that is more centrist than the CPC would happen is utter nonsense.

To play the game though, I never voted for or supported the federal PCs in any way. I doubt I ever would.

[Tilter]

Exactly! Like many on the left, this nostalgia for the old PC party is just a hope that the CPC will become more "leftish", like the old PCs.

We all have our dreams but the plain fact is that more people voted for the CPC than any other party. These people tend to be strong in their beliefs, just as the supporters for the other parties.

If Harper allowed the CPC to become too much like the other parties he would lose his support base almost overnight. Wishing for that to happen is like wishing for an enemy to commit suicide.

Count them---- 6 or half a dozen. NO DIFFERENCE and none of the or PC conservative are liberals--- way too honest.