BubberMiley Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 The difference between Mulcair and McCay is that McCay made a deal based on his word that he would not merge the two parties. Mulcair made no such promise. He just said it wasn't in the cards. Even if there was a Lib-NDP merger, Mulcair would still not be the backstabbing liar that McCay is. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
cybercoma Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 One problem I have with the turncoat idea is that when EITHER party was in politics earlier they were running on the supposed idea that they were not attuned to the other party's ideals. A person can change their minds but how can you change your ideals? I suppose that you would say Rae has changed--- but where would he have purchased the integrity and also the fiscal know how to go from the worst premier of any Canadian province to the admired & wise leader of a totally different idealism. Politicians are all prostitutes---- they go for the dough--- or whatever anyone offers. Really? Tom Mulcair was a Liberal because he was against the ideals of the NDP? The NDP does not have a provincial party in Quebec. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 If you think those two are turncoats than what is Harper? He started out as a Liberals, then change to a Progressive Conservative , then on to the Reformer, to Alliance to Conservative!!!!! So that makes Harper belonging to 4-5 parties. He's Prime Minister with all the baggage that goes with it. That includes his political history. So, you want a limerick ? How kind of you to request it. Canada's Conservative Member is most Prime They Should be elected all of the time For the rest are quite dense But in their defense Are leaderless most of the time. Liberals are defunct losers and the NDP has lost Jack and will shortly lose it's Quebec faction. Quote
WLDB Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 One problem I have with the turncoat idea is that when EITHER party was in politics earlier they were running on the supposed idea that they were not attuned to the other party's ideals. A person can change their minds but how can you change your ideals? Life can change them for you. Rae has said he didnt like the way the NDP was going. It was going far too left for him so he went to the only alternative, the Liberals. His constituents seem to be fine with him as does the Liberal Party at the moment. As for Mulcair, its possible nothing changed for him. There is just no NDP provincially in Quebec. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
Shakeyhands Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 It's the NDP's history of just making things up that the Conservatives never did or said that I take issue with. Such as? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
mentalfloss Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) Such as? Pierre Poutine. Edited March 29, 2012 by mentalfloss Quote
Evening Star Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 The Quebec provincial Liberal party and the federal NDP are not two opposing parties. This is complete BS. turn·coat noun \-ˌkōt\ Definition of TURNCOAT : one who switches to an opposing side or party; specifically. Apparently he left the Charest Libs when given a demotion. "During a Cabinet shuffle, Charest offered Mulcair the position of Minister of Government Services." Then he 'turned' to the NDP. "On April 20, 2007, Mulcair confirmed that he would be running for the New Democratic Party (NDP) in the next federal election.[18][19] His presence in the front row during a speech in Montreal by NDP Leader Jack Layton in March 2007 had already led to speculations to that effect.[20] He had previously given a speech at the Federal NDP Convention in Quebec City in September 2006. Mulcair's maternal great-great-grandfather was former Quebec Premier Honoré Mercier, to whom he referred when he announced his return to politics in 2007: "My great grandfather [sic] was Honoré Mercier, so what else could you expect from me." [21] Mulcair identified former Quebec Liberal Party leader Claude Ryan as his political mentor.[22]" He certainly has the credentials to make things interesting, but, as an NDP leader he will never see the office of Prime Minister except from the Opposition bench. Quote
Tilter Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Mulcair stated unequivocally that there will be no merger. I believe his words were something along the lines of this: "The Liberals had their opportunity. They have a history of flashing left and turning right. Now there's only one choice left for progressive voters in Canada." Being a politician, Mulcair is actually saying he is looking forward to the day when the 2 parties merge, same idea as McPremier's "There will be N O tax increases if I'm elected" Quote
WLDB Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Being a politician, Mulcair is actually saying he is looking forward to the day when the 2 parties merge, same idea as McPremier's "There will be N O tax increases if I'm elected" Ontario had two chances to vote him out after that, but chose not to. I wouldnt trust any politician/party's stance on taxes before they get into government. They all tend to switch on that issue once in office regardless of party. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
Guest Peeves Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Ontario had two chances to vote him out after that, but chose not to. I wouldnt trust any politician/party's stance on taxes before they get into government. They all tend to switch on that issue once in office regardless of party. Not all. The Conservatives under Mike Harris did what they promised in "The Common Sense Revolution' platform they ran on. Trouble is he did what he said he would. Best government we had. Best Provincial leader too. Rae looked and acted before him as an amateur. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Not all. The Conservatives under Mike Harris did what they promised in "The Common Sense Revolution' platform they ran on. Trouble is he did what he said he would. Best government we had. Best Provincial leader too. Rae looked and acted before him as an amateur. What about that deficit Harris and Eves left us with?? John,"Create a crisis in public education" Snobelin??? Plastimet fire? Walkerton? Ipperwash? Downloading things onto the Municipalities?? Amalgamation?? Yeah....All part of the "Common Sense" revolution... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
WLDB Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Not all. The Conservatives under Mike Harris did what they promised in "The Common Sense Revolution' platform they ran on. Trouble is he did what he said he would. Best government we had. Best Provincial leader too. Rae looked and acted before him as an amateur. Exactly. He did what he said he would even though he really shouldn't have. As a result he is still not much better liked than Bob Rae is today. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
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