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[olpfan1]

I came upon these words..eloquently spoken by Stephen Harper before the Gomery Inquiry was finished

"At worst, he personally ordered it done and

chose the people who executed the plan. At the very least, he fostered an

attitude within the party [...], chose the managers of the people who committed

these crimes and completely and utterly failed to exercise any oversight,

supervision or leadership.

In the end, it doesn’t really matter where [his] actions or lack of them fall

on that scale. He is the leader and a leader is responsible for the actions of

the people he leads.

If he had a right or honourable bone in his body, he’d admit that and resign

immediately."

Oh my god the irony

Edited March 6, 2012 by olpfan1

[CPCFTW]

lol, that doesn't prove he didn't say that, you know CTV doesn't have all the time in the world to focus on their stories, they're mostly between 90 seconds to 120 seconds, what it shows is that you're being blatantly partisan because you're implying all of these journalists and papers and tv stations are reporting a lie

they are making up quotes is what you're implying

It doesn't prove he did. If you're gonna post an article and video with that title, at least prove it... otherwise it seems like propaganda.

(BTW.. by "you're" I mean ctv, not you).

Edited March 6, 2012 by CPCFTW

[olpfan1]

It doesn't prove he did. If you're gonna post an article and video with that title, at least prove it... otherwise it seems like propaganda.

(BTW.. by "you're" I mean ctv, not you).

CTV is pro harper government, I don't see why they would make stuff up to make him look bad

[Bryan]

CTV is pro harper government

Are you on drugs?

[CPCFTW]

CTV is pro harper government, I don't see why they would make stuff up to make him look bad

Everything is pro harper government according to you.

Here's the writer's twitter:

http://twitter.com/#!/joshvisser

I may have heard that wrong but did Harper just accuse the Liberals of faking the robocalls to themselves?

Conservatives keep calling 'robocall' a smear by the opposition. What about every paper and TV Network making similar allegations?

He sure seems pro Harper to me!

[CPCFTW]

what it shows is that you're being blatantly partisan because you're implying all of these journalists and papers and tv stations are reporting a lie

they are making up quotes is what you're implying

I didn't say they made up the quote, it's just suspicious that they never show the quote on video or provide a quote for the question posed in the article. Seems like the author and reporter are blatantly trying to mislead.

I can't find an article showing the question Del Mastro was asked, can you?

Edited March 6, 2012 by CPCFTW

[olpfan1]

I didn't say they made up the quote, it's just suspicious that they never show the quote on video or provide a quote for the question posed in the article. Seems like the author and reporter are blatantly trying to mislead.

I can't find an article showing the question Del Mastro was asked, can you?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/05/pol-robocalls-monday.html

"It's ... clear that the Liberal Party spent millions of dollars to contact hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of homes right across this country. It appears they had given them some incorrect information but the Liberal leader is sitting on all of this information while he makes unsubstantiated smears," Del Mastro said.

Speaking to reporters after question period, Del Mastro denied making any allegations.

"No, in fact I haven’t made any allegations," he said. "The Liberal Party has made … allegations about our party that we in fact contacted Liberal supporters. We did no such thing."

The Conservative Party doesn't need to provide its own records, he said "because obviously our party is not behind these calls, we know that."

[olpfan1]

I don't think you need to see the question word for word, that isn't how articles are written

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/tories-demand-liberals-release-call-records-but-refuse-to-follow-suit/article2359412/

But when asked later by reporters if the Conservatives were prepared to release their own records, Mr. Del Mastro said: “No, because obviously our party is not behind the calls. We know that. We believe the Liberal Party has in fact made these allegations and they’ve made these allegations knowing full well that they’ve paid these companies millions of dollars to makes calls to hundreds of thousands of households across the country.”

[CPCFTW]

So you can't find the question quoted either? Thanks for confirming.

Funny that in an age where everything is recorded, you of all people can't dig up a recording of this alleged exchange.

Edited March 6, 2012 by CPCFTW

[olpfan1]

So you can't find the question quoted either? Thanks for confirming.

no, but now you're the one wearing the tin foil hat

[cybercoma]

Who cares what the question was. The answer speaks volumes. They don't need to provide their phone records because they know they weren't behind anything. Whatever happened to the tired conservative line, "if you're not doing anything wrong, then you should have nothing to worry about."

[olpfan1]

Cpc and other parties disobeyed the rules tsk tsk

Elections Canada confirms the Conservative party requested a list of all polling stations before the federal vote last May 2, and that as a result the elections watchdog provided the list to all parties.

In its statutory report following the 2011 campaign, released last August, Elections Canada highlighted the incident in a separate box.

"Because a polling site can be replaced by another at the last minute, and to ensure that electors always have access to the most accurate information regarding their location, Elections Canada indicated to political parties that the list supplied should only be used for internal purposes and that parties should not direct electors to polling sites," said the report.

All parties were instructed to tell voters to check Elections Canada's website or their voter information card for poll locations "to prevent electors from being directed to incorrect polling sites."

"Some political parties did not comply with this request," said the report.

Elections Canada could not immediately say Monday which parties disregarded its advice.

But the Conservatives have been readily acknowledging for a week that they contacted party supporters by phone with information on poll locations.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/elections-canada-told-parties-not-to-call-voters-with-polling-station-locations-141498343.html?device=mobile

Edited March 6, 2012 by olpfan1

[CPCFTW]

Who cares what the question was. The answer speaks volumes. They don't need to provide their phone records because they know they weren't behind anything. Whatever happened to the tired conservative line, "if you're not doing anything wrong, then you should have nothing to worry about."

You can't read the answer that way unless you are reading it as an answer to the alleged question.

When asked later by reporters if the Conservatives were concerned about the ongoing investigation, Mr. Del Mastro said: “No, because obviously our party is not behind the calls. We know that. We believe the Liberal Party has in fact made these allegations and they’ve made these allegations knowing full well that they’ve paid these companies millions of dollars to makes calls to hundreds of thousands of households across the country.”

There, now does that sound so bad?

I'm not saying there's not a possibility that he said it, but the fact that none of the articles quotes the question or shows a video of the question is pretty suspicious.

Show me the video!!! /Jerry Maguire

Edited March 6, 2012 by CPCFTW

[olpfan1]

CPC that wasnt even a real question and no different than

But when asked later by reporters if the Conservatives were prepared to release their own records,

Mr. Del Mastro said: “No, because obviously our party is not behind the calls. We know that. We believe the Liberal Party has in fact made these allegations and they’ve made these allegations knowing full well that they’ve paid these companies millions of dollars to makes calls to hundreds of thousands of households across the country.”

[CPCFTW]

CPC that wasnt even a real question and no different than

But when asked later by reporters if the Conservatives were prepared to release their own records,

Mr. Del Mastro said: “No, because obviously our party is not behind the calls. We know that. We believe the Liberal Party has in fact made these allegations and they’ve made these allegations knowing full well that they’ve paid these companies millions of dollars to makes calls to hundreds of thousands of households across the country.”

That's the point... we don't know the question.

I actually found a clip of a part of the question, it goes: "...will your party do the same thing?". The lead in is probably "The liberals have said they will release their records...", but the point is that we don't know and it is suspicious that the media is not showing or quoting the full question and answer.

I'm pretty sure the Q&A was on scrums, we can check tomorrow when Monday's scrum is posted:

http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?dsp=template&act=view3&section_id=24&template_id=190&hl=e

Have a good night.

Edited March 6, 2012 by CPCFTW

[olpfan1]

They NEVER quote the full question in articles, they summarize

[capricorn]

I came upon these words..eloquently spoken by Stephen Harper before the Gomery Inquiry was finished

"At worst, he personally ordered it done and

chose the people who executed the plan. At the very least, he fostered an

attitude within the party [...], chose the managers of the people who committed

these crimes and completely and utterly failed to exercise any oversight,

supervision or leadership.

In the end, it doesn’t really matter where [his] actions or lack of them fall

on that scale. He is the leader and a leader is responsible for the actions of

the people he leads.

If he had a right or honourable bone in his body, he’d admit that and resign

immediately."

Oh my god the irony

Spoken by Harper?

This is his crime in the same way that Watergate was Nixon's crime.

At worst, he personally ordered it done and chose the people who executed the plan. At the very least, he fostered an attitude within the party that winning - by any means necessary - was all that mattered, chose the managers of the people who committed these crimes and completely and utterly failed to exercise any oversight, supervision or leadership.

In the end, it doesn't really matter where Harper's actions or lack of them fall on that scale. He is the leader and a leader is responsible for the actions of the people he leads.

If he had a right or honourable bone in his body, he'd admit that and resign immediately.

But what do we get?

Stephen Harper first claiming the Liberals did it and finally, if not in so many words, saying "Prove it, copper!"

http://kevinswoodshed.blogspot.com/2012/03/harpers-one.html

Are you so dishonest that you purposely attribute a quote to someone other than the author?

Now you know why I question the claims you make in your posts where you don't provide a source or authentication.

[madmax]

Conservative responses = laughing stock

The Conservatives are dishing out whoppers daily.

This is going to be a time joke... its simply a matter of time.

[Shakeyhands]

Ummm.... what the hell is going on at CPC Headquarters and Ottawa?

We haven't had any weak excuses or broadside attacks from the CPC today blaming or attacking anyone.

Someone is asleep at the switch. (Anders????)

I am disappoint.

Edited March 6, 2012 by Shakeyhands

[cybercoma]

Ummm.... what the hell is going on at CPC Headquarters and Ottawa?

We haven't had any weak excuses or broadside attacks from the CPC today blaming or attacking anyone.

Someone is asleep at the switch. (Anders????)

I am disappoint.

Andrew Scheer said Anonymous was a threat to Vic Toews and the rest of the MPs, while having a shadow MP in Montreal isn't I guess.

[olpfan1]

Spoken by Harper?

http://kevinswoodshed.blogspot.com/2012/03/harpers-one.html

Are you so dishonest that you purposely attribute a quote to someone other than the author?

Now you know why I question the claims you make in your posts where you don't provide a source or authentication.

No, I saw it on another website and thought it was a real quote, my bad, it is not a real quote

See the difference about conservatives and myself is if I say something that I learn isn't to be factual I admit to being wrong, unlike the current government

Please, accept my apology Capricon

[olpfan1]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/elections-canada-targets-paypal-records-in-robo-calls-probe/article2359806/

Elections Canada’s hunt for the identity of the political operative behind robo-calls designed to misdirect voters in Guelph has led the watchdog to records at PayPal Canada, a company that handles online payments and money transfers.

Investigators for Elections Canada have used a court order in an attempt to get PayPal to hand over information sought for their probe into the southwestern Ontario riding.

[capricorn]

No, I saw it on another website and thought it was a real quote, my bad, it is not a real quote

Let it be a lesson to you not to believe everything you read on blogs or in the comments section of media articles. Some of us know how to use google to ferret out those who misrepresent things.

Please, accept my apology Capricon

OK. Just know that if you post unsubstantiated and incorrect stuff expect to be found out.

[olpfan1]

OK. Just know that if you post unsubstantiated and incorrect stuff expect to be found out.

Just know that when the Conservatives claim unsubstantiated and incorrect stuff they'll be found out asap

[olpfan1]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/06/conservative-campaign-spending-records-under-elections-canada-microscope-in-robocalls-investigation/

OTTAWA — Elections Canada investigators probing the robocalls scandal are interviewing workers on the Conservative campaign in Guelph, Ont., and trying to determine why payments made to an Edmonton voice-broadcasting company were not declared in financial reports filed with the agency.

In recent days, the agency has spoken to at least three workers from the campaign of Conservative candidate Marty Burke, including the official agent responsible for ensuring the campaign’s financial report was accurate.

Elections Canada wants to know why the costs of automated calls the campaign has admitted sending out never appeared in the campaign’s expense report, as required by law.

Andrew Prescott, the deputy campaign manager, said he is co-operating with the investigation and handing over bills he received from RackNine Inc. for a series of robocalls promoting Burke events during the election.

The same company was used to transmit misleading Elections Canada calls on election day.

Prescott maintains he had no role in the fake Elections Canada calls that directed voters to the wrong polling stations.

Prescott said Monday that he had given his campaign manager invoices for the calls but could not explain why the expenses did not appear on the financial report sent to Elections Canada.

He said he used a RackNine account he held through his own company, Prescoan, to place the automated calls announcing Burke campaign events. He said he then submitted invoices to the campaign for these costs.

“I gave them to the campaign manager,” Prescott said. “There was definitely no effort to hide anything or obscure anything.”

There is no record of these expenses anywhere in the Burke campaign return, however.