Boomer Seniors: 65 and sex, drugs and rock and roll

[Scotty]

Actually the baby boomers go all the way to 1965-66.

Really? So presuming one was born in 1946 right after the war, you're saying that the children of these baby boomers were also baby boomers?

I'm finding that pretty difficult to accept.

Edited January 25, 2012 by Scotty

[bush_cheney2004]

Really? So presuming one was born in 1946 right after the way, you're saying that the children of these baby boomers were also baby boomers?

Canada's boomer gen is defined uniquely based on birth rates, as are other nations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93World_War_II_baby_boom#In_Canada

[Guest American Woman]

Really? So presuming one was born in 1946 right after the way, you're saying that the children of these baby boomers were also baby boomers?

I'm finding that pretty difficult to accept.

From dictionary.com:

baby boomer

 

noun

a person born during a baby boom, especially one born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1965.

From Wikipedia:

In Canada, the baby boom is usually defined as occurring from 1947 to 1966, the years that more than 400,000 babies were born.

Edited to add: Bush_cheney beat me to it!

Edited January 22, 2012 by American Woman

[Evening Star]

Really? So presuming one was born in 1946 right after the way, you're saying that the children of these baby boomers were also baby boomers?

I'm finding that pretty difficult to accept.

Yeah, that does seem to be the definition but it's challenging my preconceptions as well. I never thought that people who were undergraduates in the mid-80s were considered baby boomers.

[Evening Star]

Anywho, I think I can buy much of the boomers' side of this, especially since subsequent generations, including (especially?) mine, don't really seem much more unselfish. I do think that government debt might have more to do with planning issues than with actual selfishness per se - and it hasn't really caused us any catastrophes so far. (The PET-era Liberals did e.g. think that the NEP would generate enough revenue to cover government expenditures.) Besides, Canada's biggest social programmes were introduced in the mid-60s Pearson era, when the very oldest boomers would have just reached voting age. Those policies that I associate most closely with PET - bilingualism, multiculturalism, abolition of the death penalty, the metric system, the Constitution Act, the Charter, the NEP, Petro-Canada - don't necessarily reflect an attitude of selfishness or entitlement to me as such.

Edited January 23, 2012 by Evening Star

[Evening Star]

I mean, it was mentioned on another thread that we've become so much more individualistic that it's hard to imagine a generation going off en masse to fight in a world war again. And this probably did really begin with the boomer generation. However, the generations that followed have probably gone even further in this direction so I don't know that we can really blame the boomers for much.

Edit: Both left and right today see themselves as defenders of the individual - whether against corporate/military power or against big government/big labour. There was a time when e.g. the left actually advocated for the common good of the group over the individual.

Edited January 23, 2012 by Evening Star

[WWWTT]

Really? So presuming one was born in 1946 right after the way, you're saying that the children of these baby boomers were also baby boomers?

I'm finding that pretty difficult to accept.

Why are you questioning me about this?

I only read this some where a couple of times.This seams to be common knowledge around here too since a few others have made similar comments.The exact dates vary by a couple years but there is a general ballpark figure that most agree upon.

But I will say this.I do agree with you that many baby boomers think that they are the centre of the universe and that somehow their generation is special in some way.Some of them anyways.However this can be argued to be the case for any generation.I do not believe you can blame them for national debt.

WWWTT

[Bonam]

I think generalizing about generations in the way people have done in this thread is plain idiotic. There are plenty of individuals, selfish and selfless, productive and unproductive, frugal and irresponsible, in each generation.

[Uncle 3 dogs]

It appears that some of the posters here are confusing lust (sex) with sharing pleasuring with someone you love. There is a big difference.

The title of yhe thread wasn't "sharing pleasuring, drugs, rock and roll".

[msj]

I mean, it was mentioned on another thread that we've become so much more individualistic that it's hard to imagine a generation going off en masse to fight in a world war again.

Imagine if only the Germans and Japanese weren't so eager and willing to go to war en masse then maybe WWI would have been the war to end all wars.

And those Americans - oh, those Americans - they were so willing to go off and fight en masse that they waited until Japan attacked them to enter the war.

They must have had a leg up on the baby boom mentality.

Edited January 27, 2012 by msj

[Evening Star]

Imagine if only the Germans and Japanese weren't so eager and willing to go to war en masse then maybe WWI would have been the war to end all wars.

And those Americans - oh, those Americans - they were so willing to go off and fight en masse that they waited until Japan attacked them to enter the war.

They must have had a leg up on the baby boom mentality.

OK, yes, you and Bonam are probably right about this.

[jacee]

RE who is a boomer ...

The post war baby boom boosted the population throughout the late 40's, the 50's and actually peaked in 1965, then the birth rate gradually fell.

The largest population bulge, then, is among those who are now about 45 years of age. The boomers currently entering retirement are just the first wave and the senior population will continue to increase until the real bulge retires in 2025-2030.

Unlike earlier phases of life that the population boom moved through, the first wave will largely still be seniors when the bulge arrives: IE, all of the boomers will end up as seniors for an extended period of time.

Here's a projection

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/ads-annonces/91-520-x/pyra-eng.htm

Edited January 27, 2012 by jacee