Guest Peeves Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) fine. Do those using Port A Potties wash up or just spread germs when they then go to coffee shops etc. Are their kitchens inspected? They serve a lot of people. There will certainly be cases of food poisoning etc. if they are made exceptions. ....and while I'm at it, Why do demonstrators and others (like Natives,, Caledonia), get away with violations the average 'Joe' would be arrested for? A good example follows. I think it's well past time that laws are applied equally. http://www.financialpost.com/todays-paper/love+Christ/5642535/story.html truncated for brevity. Mr. Pawlowski shrugs. He's used to his work not always being popular, and he's as tenacious and patient as anyone you'll find. For the past six years the city has hit him with injunctions, fines and arrests. He posts copies of the tickets on his Street Church website; they go on for pages. Police have confiscated his signs and his Bibles. He's moved to the steps of City Hall in protest, after being driven out of the needle parks and underpasses where he used to minister to dealers and prostitutes.He's spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, mortgaging his home twice in the process, in legal battles over what he believes is his constitutional right to preach the gospel, and help the needful, on city streets. The city, too, has spent a fortune prosecuting him. He's long believed the city had a bias against Christians. The fact that the anti capitalist occupiers have been left to openly flout, for two weeks, many of the same bylaws that he's been routinely ticketed and arrested for, he says, is proof of it. "I have stood over 70 times in the courts. We have been charged over 100 times. Eight arrests," he says. "Just because I believe in Jesus Christ, I'm treated differently." Edited November 2, 2011 by Peeves Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Please see the rules - you haven't done much here to stimulate discussion. Besides, there are already better threads about the Occupy movement. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
scribblet Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Oh come on really, there are umpteen posts that could fit the same description. (don't stimulate discussion). There is a health concern, rats have been reported at one Vancouver site... it's time for them to leave, they've made their point I think, not sure what it is in Canada. There's no reason why cities should continue to allow an occupation of public land, they've had their say, it's time to go. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Michael Hardner Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Oh come on really, there are umpteen posts that could fit the same description. (don't stimulate discussion). Starting an entire thread is more annoying, don't you think ? Multiple threads and so on. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Wild Bill Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Starting an entire thread is more annoying, don't you think ? Multiple threads and so on. Not really, Michael! Let's not get too anal-retentive about the rules, lest the board become as rigid and "no-fun" as a leftwing bureaucracy. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Shwa Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) fine. OK. Do those using Port A Potties wash up or just spread germs when they then go to coffee shops etc. Does anyone? I mean, can you guarantee everyone that you wash your hands after handling your parts? Are their kitchens inspected? They serve a lot of people. There will certainly be cases of food poisoning etc. if they are made exceptions. I would imagine that any food services would come under some sort of health inspection by-law, but I believe there are exemptions for certain types of services. However, if a clean kitchen is never inspected, that doesn't mean it will somehow become unclean and cause food poisoning. I bet your kitchen wouldn't be able to pass a typical health inspection. How often do you get food poisoning? ....and while I'm at it, Why do demonstrators and others (like Natives,, Caledonia), get away with violations the average 'Joe' would be arrested for? A good example follows. I think it's well past time that laws are applied equally. The Occupiers are 'average Joes' in the sense you are referring to them. They get away with what they do because they are protesting and have the law behind them so long as they do it peacefully. Would you rather they strike down the right to peaceful assembly and association so you can sound coherent? It would likely be easier on everyone if you simply worked on your coherency. http://www.financialpost.com/todays-paper/love+Christ/5642535/story.htmltruncated for brevity. Truncated for important details is more like it. Edited November 2, 2011 by Shwa Quote
lukin Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Please see the rules - you haven't done much here to stimulate discussion. Besides, there are already better threads about the Occupy movement. Come now. This forum is suffering enough as it is. Quote
Argus Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Shouldn't that title be Occupiers 'should be' committed. I mean, they haven't all even been diagnosed yet. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
scribblet Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Shouldn't that title be Occupiers 'should be' committed. I mean, they haven't all even been diagnosed yet. That thought crossed my mind... - Not to mention that in N.Y. as a consequence of their (protester's) actions 21 people have lost their jobs. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/01/milk-street-cafe-owner-sacks-21-employees-as-consequence-of-occupy-wall-street-demonstration/ The Occupy Wall Street movement, which says its goals include improving the economic lot for 99 percent of Americans, may have some explaining to do to some cafe workers now out of a job. and in Vancouver they are looking at half a million in costs so far... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
charter.rights Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) Seems it might not bee so bad. Fecal bacteriotherapy Researchers Hope To Control Obesity Through Fecal Transplants ...more fecal transplants Seems the cure for many stomach and intestinal illnesses might be to get rid of the germaphobes. As my dear old ma likes to say "You have to eat a peck of dirt before you die!" Seems she's right. Eat dirt and stay healthy! Edited November 3, 2011 by charter.rights Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
jbg Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Please see the rules - you haven't done much here to stimulate discussion. Besides, there are already better threads about the Occupy movement. Peeves makes some good points. Law abiding, decent people suffer harassment that the occupiers don't since no one fears a violent response from such people. We should have learned in 1938 what "peace in our times" yields. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Peeves makes some good points. Law abiding, decent people suffer harassment that the occupiers don't since no one fears a violent response from such people. We should have learned in 1938 what "peace in our times" yields. So what? Its a protest movement. When the people entrusted with managing our economy and our money supply turn the whole thing into a house of fraud and gambling, and get people mad enough to take to the streets, OBVIOUSLY some people are going to be inconvenienced. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Guest Peeves Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Peeves makes some good points. Law abiding, decent people suffer harassment that the occupiers don't since no one fears a violent response from such people. We should have learned in 1938 what "peace in our times" yields. So long as they are here..there..there will be opposing views. Justified opposing views. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/31/protesters-are-above-the-law Jerry Agar 1010 radio talk show host in The Sun. (truncated for brevity.) The Occupy Wall Street (OWS) message seems to be one of opposition to financial inequality. Protesters in New York City who cook for the others have cut back in protest of homeless people getting some of the food. According to the New York Post, they are tired of working 18 hours a day in order to be taken advantage of by freeloaders.The delicious irony of this would be amusing if it were not for the fact that top politicians seem to believe OWS has a relevant message. U.S. President Barack Obama said, “The most important thing we can do right now is those of us in leadership letting people know that we understand their struggles and we are on their side.” Protesters everywhere, including in Toronto, have flouted the law, taken over public spaces and offered no real solutions, yet politicians act as though the movement is made up of economic geniuses. Toronto Councillors Gord Perks and Shelley Carroll submitted a motion calling on city council to “endorse the peaceful protests of the Occupy Toronto movement.” What a sad display of so-called leadership. How about a motion to recognize all the people going to work, paying taxes and obeying the law? Now the Mohawk Warriors have raised their flag in St. James Park, not necessarily in solidarity with the movement, but perhaps to get in under its cover. There are people of the opinion natives should be able to take over any piece of property they want, as it was “stolen from them in the first place.” People have called my radio show to express that very belief. When I asked one of them whether that meant the natives could take his house in Mississauga, he replied, “Well I paid for that house.” Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 So long as they are here..there..there will be opposing views. Justified opposing views. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/31/protesters-are-above-the-law Jerry Agar 1010 radio talk show host in The Sun. (truncated for brevity.) Oh gee, lookie here, another (truncated for brevity) opinion about the Occupy movement in Toronto. Simple fascinating. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Oh gee, lookie here, another (truncated for brevity) opinion about the Occupy movement in Toronto. Simple fascinating. I can explain the word if you're flummoxed. BTW why are you attempting to provoke me, am I chopped liver? I truncated my response as it was far to long and complex in the circumstance. May I put you on my friends list or are you too busy with all those waiting in queue? Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 I can explain the word if you're flummoxed. BTW why are you attempting to provoke me, am I chopped liver? I truncated my response as it was far to long and complex in the circumstance. May I put you on my friends list or are you too busy with all those waiting in queue? Nah, chopped liver is more interesting and, in this case, more enlightening. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Please see the rules - you haven't done much here to stimulate discussion. Besides, there are already better threads about the Occupy movement. Thank you for the advice. I agree with you so I added content that was on my mind. Quote
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